To think people who would otherwise vote for corbyn may not because of Diane Abbott?

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Sorry if there's already a thread about her latest cringeworthy interview but I couldn't find one... here she was on sky new last night, clearly having failed to read the police report she was there to discuss:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/

I like corbyn and what he stands for, but I can't give him my vote with these buffoons around him!

"Diane Abott fails because she hasn't had media training"

What utter rubbish! she has had lots of media training and much more media experience than TM. do you not watch Andrew neil after question time?

all those of you on the left saying "hey don't worry she will be shuffled out on Friday" need to remember 2 things:

1. this is the best front bench Corbyn could muster from MPs that will actually work with him. She is the best he has.

1. Abbott is a sacred cow as far as Corbyn is concerned. he absolutely will not ever sack this woman. ever. they had a previous long term relationship and she has stuck by him for years and years.

Corbyn's performances haven't been strong its just that the Conservatives have been piss poor.

He has back tracked on all of his principles - CND in particular. he only looks this good because the other side have made such a massive hash of it.

Not just Abbott. The shadow chancellor of the exchequer is also hopelessly out of his depth and appears numerically challenged - his responses after recent budgets have been cringeworthy. I thought Brown was a hopeless chancellor, but they're really scraping the barrel now.

Harris said that police numbers is London were sufficient - having seen people on this thread try to repeat Corbyn's line about May being responsible for cutting police numbers

The issue is partly that other recommendations - made last autumn - were not implemented, and then not implemented again following Westminster. That alone makes a mockery of Abbott's "preparedness" mantra.

I've voted already, and not for any of the horses in this race. But it's disingenuous of the Corbyn Cult to pretend she'll be put of a job come Friday, and a competent home secretary replacing her. Not least as that would mean someone who'd previously refused to work for Corbyn - when he looked unelectable - but changed their minds through their own self-serving interests.

I'm sick, tired and quite frankly bored of journalists and interviewers setting traps and deliberately trying to bait politicians to manufacture headlines like this

FFS this is the biggest load of bollocks I've read in a long time. Abbot was invited onto a news programme to discuss a report. She hadn't read the report. It's not like they asked her on to discuss her favourite recipe and then sprung a question about the political situation in Mongolia onto the woman!

How BAD does the Corbyn/Abbot show have to get before the blinkers come off??? If Labour lose badly on Thursday that's why - Corbyn and Abbot. Sooner the hard left appreciate that the better or they'll be getting the decades of Conservative government which they say they don't want.

This country needs a leader who'll get tough on terrorism. A spineless pussy who's only just been persuaded that shoot to kill is a good idea is not the man for the job. Remember, he wants to have talks with ISIS, who want us dead simply because we exist. He's delusional if he thinks they can be stopped by talking it out over a nice cup of tea.

Well I gather she will be on Woman's hour at 10 so it will be interesting to hear.

Boris is so much better. not

I do think she's ill (or increasingly having trouble coping with stress - after all she didn't vote on the Brexit bill because she was taken ill and had to leave before the vote) but I won't let that put me off voting Labour. The Tories have systematically dismantled the NHS, raised national debt in spite of austerity and made some disastrous security choices. Plus it's pretty common for there to be a reshuffle following an election so it's by no means assured that the shadow Home Sec will become the serving Home Sec.

Again shows the judgement of corbyn and is a reflection on the man over choices like abbott as shadow home Secretary.

A spineless pussy who's only just been persuaded that shoot to kill is a good idea is not the man for the job.

and also a terrorist according to some

doesnt work does it

Well I gather she will be on Woman's hour at 10 so it will be interesting to hear my toes are already curling in anticipation!!

Agree, hackmum, Abbott isn't nervous - she's a seasoned media performer who had a regular slot on Daily Politics amongst others, she not worried about being in front of the camera. There is something wrong with her at the moment, and it's sad.

I do agree that she shouldn't be doing interviews right now and should in fact probably step down, but so close to polling day that simply isn't going to happen. She has become a liability for Labour and will lose them votes; the responses on this thread show as much, because some people refuse to see beyond the media performance to the actual policies.

It is like an exam to a certain extent, in that the person being interviewed is expected to have prepared answers to questions that are likely to be asked. Either being unprepared, which is indefensible, or being ill, which is sad, but foolish for putting her in the position, means that she has repeatedly damaged credibility.

Have people forgotten too, that she saw fit to forego her principles to send her child to be privately educated, so she is also hypocritical.

She has reached her level of incompetence. In fact she probably reached it some time back. So yes imho.

This. She is a Labour Party representative. So go ahead and vote them in. Genius.

Reminded me of this interview. Both seemed to have as much grasp of the interview 😀

m.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Y2uQn_wvc

I agree OP. But then again what does it say about Corbyn that he has chosen somebody incompetent for such an important role. There are no good choices in this election.

I do think she's ill

Perhaps she is. But if you're a manager in any situation - not just politics - and you have someone on your team who is ill, stressed, struggling to cope, you sit them down and have a conversation. Either you support them fully through something short term, or more likely, you put them on "ligh duties" to allow them to concentrate on getting better.

Corbyn isn't doing that. He's quite happy to let her lurch from one disastrous interview to the next. He thinks she's a great candidate for Home Secy. That says to me he is incompetent. I know he's limited in his pool of candidates but really, when an ill/struggling Diane Abbot is the best you have, you're screwed.

yes it does the Monkey. I have never accused JC of being a terrorist but he has sympathies and his crass support of the IRA after various bombing campaigns was absolutely appalling. And doesn't that just speak volumes - a member of CND yet happy to support Hezbollah and the IRA. would you call that a consistent view?

and if I remember rightly at the time, the labour line when asked how they could keep such a despicable man in their ranks, was "ahh don't worry he is a harmless back bencher with no real power"

the sensible intelligent MPs in the Labour party haven't forgiven him for some of the things that he has done and that is why they wont stand with him on the front bench - ever.

Sorry broken, my bad. I have the absolute rage today. I'm a carer for my young disabled daughter, my mother has early onset dementia and I have family who works in the NHS. I admit, I'm shitting myself about the future. No point in shouting at folk on mumsnet though. Sorry again.

It's fine. I have the rage today too tbh. Most of it is directed towards the Tories, but some of it is at Labour for making themselves look unelectable at times. I desperately want to see the Tories out of government and my heart just sank yesterday when I watched that interview because it smacked of utter incompetence.

I'm sorry that you have so much to deal with at the moment, and understand how scared you must be.

It reflects badly on JC that she is still there.

THIS.

There are so many things wrong with the current Labour Party, though, it's just yet another thing to weep over.

I hope it's retrievable as a proper left wing party.

I have never accused JC of being a terrorist but he has sympathies

libellous bullshit

Also I disagree that it's impossible for her to step aside.

She could quite easily say that she would still be standing as the MP for Hackney, but due to personal issues / illness / whatever would not longer be in the Cabinet or Shadow Cabinet after June 8th.

I'd have a lot more respect for the Labour party if they were seen to be acknowledging that there is a serious credibility issue and doing something to address that. At the moment they're pretending there's nothing wrong.

She has become a liability for Labour and will lose them votes; the responses on this thread show as much, because some people refuse to see beyond the media performance to the actual policies

Yes, yes, its all about the media performance. Nothing to do with whether people think it sensible to vote for a party on such disarray that they think DA is Home Secretary material.

chunkychicken1, Ffs people should vote for the polices they believe in note vote because of one individual in a party - it's not a personality contest. So instead of voting for the guy who wants to protect the NHS, support the elderly and disabled, equalise access to education and find our other public services, people are now going to vote for the party that's going to continue to destroy our key services, attack the vulnerable and is busy funding Saudi terrorists. Where is the rationale ffs!!!

Would also point out that the Tories have made a number of gaffes with their figures but the media has largely ignored those - eg the actual Chancellor not knowing that Hs2 cost was £32 billion not £52 billion!! Why is no one bothered by that?! Or the Tories doctoring campaign videos so that Corbyn appears to say one thing when he in fact said another - blatant lying allowed apparently.