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To think people who would otherwise vote for corbyn may not because of Diane Abbott?

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chunkychicken1 · 06/06/2017 07:07

Sorry if there's already a thread about her latest cringeworthy interview but I couldn't find one... here she was on sky new last night, clearly having failed to read the police report she was there to discuss:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/

I like corbyn and what he stands for, but I can't give him my vote with these buffoons around him!

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makeourfuture · 06/06/2017 08:10

Broken biscuit, you are not listening. The current regime has utterly failed at their duty to protect the people.

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 06/06/2017 08:10

So Theresa May gets criticised for not being able to speak in public but Diane Abbott gets a pass for yet another interview where she clearly demonstrates that she doesn't understand her brief. Whether she is ill or not she isn't fit to be Home Secretary and Corbyn's judgement is called into question (again) for putting her in that position.

PhoenixJasmine · 06/06/2017 08:11

Honestly? I'm sick, tired and quite frankly bored of journalists and interviewers setting traps and deliberately trying to bait politicians to manufacture headlines like this. I think in that clip Dermot Murnaghan comes off a lot worse, with his smug, cryptic line of questioning. Did he want to ask her views on these topics, or did he want to trip her up?

Both Sky and the Scum are Murdoch-owned, and surprise surprise using their influence to attempt to discredit the opposition because Theresa May has promised Murdoch the world if he uses his ridiculous amount of influence to campaign for her. (She has met with Murdoch privately, and he is quoted as saying "When I go into Downing Street, they do what I say").

I could not give a flying fuck if politicians are able to spontaneously recall a specific figure on the spur of the moment - I often can't at work, but I know where to find the figure quickly and you know what, I am bloody good at my job. I prefer my politicians human. Remember that quote about to err and to forgive.

Dandandandandandandan · 06/06/2017 08:11

Mmm - but do you think he'd let them, after that, stonecircle?

CrossWordSalad · 06/06/2017 08:11

Time and time again I read that people let an individuals personality affect their decision on who to vote for. Please read a parties manifesto. Please think about the policies of each party, the direction in which the party wants to take our country and society. How each party treats the vulnerable, how each party values the NHS.

This isn't the fucking X factor final.

I think you should get off your high horse. If you think it is DA's personality people are talking about please read what people have actually said. DA demonstrated that she is woefully ill informed about terrorism and how to prevent it, but would rather lie and bluff ("resilience and preparedness") than admit she can't remember the detail of an important document on terrorism prevention.

I think you are the one who seems to be talking as if it is the X factor.

And how anyone can watch that interview and not be alarmed at the state of the Labour party, at the internal politics and disarray which must be going such that they think DA is Home Secretary material, I don't know.

We all knew the Labour party was in chaos before the election was called. Then suddenly mass amnesia on that point. I just hope people remember in time.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 06/06/2017 08:12

I also have to say that I severely judge Jeremy Cornyn too as leader for allowing this to continue to happen. The woman is either ill (and therefore needs support. It's not very caring to let her go on TV and repeatedly make a tit of herself) or totally not up to the job. However it suits JC to keep her in position - not exactly in the best interests of all of us which he claims to stand for

Sunshinegirls · 06/06/2017 08:12

Broken, be sure to screenshot your comment there so when future generations ask us what the fuck we were thinking when we let the tories back in you can show them your reason. They'll understand then.

Brokenbiscuit · 06/06/2017 08:13

To actually try and defend that performance is just incomprehensible

Yes, exactly. And the Labour supporters on here don't do any favours for their cause by trying to minimise how bad it was. Let's be honest, it was a total car crash.

BreconBeBuggered · 06/06/2017 08:13

Okay, the dodgy interviews make me cringe. But the Tory auto-lies make me bloody furious. I haven't voted Labour for many years, but I probably will this time.

GlitterGlue · 06/06/2017 08:14

If they won (they won't) she'd be gone within days.

I don't rate her, but it's not compulsory to rate every member of a party. Let's face it, I'm sure many floating tories have a strong dislike of Jeremy Hunt.

Brokenbiscuit · 06/06/2017 08:14

Broken biscuit, you are not listening. The current regime has utterly failed at their duty to protect the people.

I know. That's why I'm voting Labour.

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 06/06/2017 08:14

She wasn't set up - the Harris report is a recent report on terrorism, she is shadow Home Secretary did she not think she might just get asked about it given that it made recommendations on how to counter terrorism a day or so after a major terrorist act in London?

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 06/06/2017 08:15

Interviewers setting traps?! The interviewer was asking perfectly legitimate questions

It's like doing no work for an exam and blaming the exam board for making the questions to hard. FFS

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 06/06/2017 08:15

Interviewers setting traps?! The interviewer was asking perfectly legitimate questions

It's like doing no work for an exam and blaming the exam board for making the questions to hard. FFS

MaidOfStars · 06/06/2017 08:17

If Labour got in, would they all really sit back and let JC make a hash of running the country and ruin any chance of re-election?
I imagine there would be a very quick reorganisation in the new Labour administration, which would include more than a few old faces....

Are any of them beyond a climbdown? Has JC said he'd never work with anyone (seems unlikely)?

Doingthingsdifferently · 06/06/2017 08:18

I am horrified by the idea of DA being in charge of anything, let alone security, as someone said up thread being able to digest and assimilate information at speed is they key skill required for politicians. I have seen thread after thread telling me JC is honest, principled a man of his convictions and from seeing him in the last few weeks I believe that. So seeing it insuinated on here that voting for labour isn't really voting for DA to be home sec doesn't really ring true, we are voting for what we are seeing.

makeourfuture · 06/06/2017 08:18

Dan, it's not good enough. Not nearly good enough. Give them the resources they need and they can stop many more.

Two4One2017 · 06/06/2017 08:20

She's clearly very nervous and uncomfortable in front of the camera but showmanship isn't really a top requirement for home secretary.

No, but knowing your brief, having a grasp of the detail, presenting it in a way that makes the public think"Yeah, she knows what she's talking about"...especially 48hrs after a terrorist attack, when she hasn't been seen during that 48hrs (Thornberry sent out to do the media).....that's what's required for that job of Home Secretary.

annandale · 06/06/2017 08:20

'Let's be clear' makeourfuture? Whee did that phrase come from?

Brokenbiscuit · 06/06/2017 08:21

Broken, be sure to screenshot your comment there so when future generations ask us what the fuck we were thinking when we let the tories back in you can show them your reason. They'll understand then.

My reason? FFS, I have already said that I will be voting Labour, so I don't need a fucking reason.

The fact is, people are not blind. A lot of people will have seen that awful interview on TV last night and concluded that they cannot put their safety in the hands of someone who is evidently not competent for the job. Pretending that it wasn't a car crash isn't going to change their minds.

The Tories will undoubtedly be terrible for this country and they have already done unspeakable damage. We are not in disagreement there. However, in order to beat them, we can't only focus like a broken record on how bad they are, we have to present a credible alternative. Diane Abbott didn't appear to offer that last night.

Dandandandandandandan · 06/06/2017 08:21

So if we look at some of the root causes, we have: our disastrous intervention in the Middle East; allowing a significant increase in immigration without first spending on infrastructure; encouraging multiculturalism rather than integration - thanks labour.

But you want us to trust labour to untangle the mess again? And rather than address root causes, just chuck (other people's) money at prevention? And be sneerily dismissive of the amazing work that our security services do?

No thanks!

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 06/06/2017 08:23

Time and time again I read that people let an individuals personality affect their decision on who to vote for. Please read a parties manifesto. Please think about the policies of each party, the direction in which the party wants to take our country and society. How each party treats the vulnerable, how each party values the NHS.

True, but time and time again you people telling us they will be voting for Corbyn because of his personality and how hot he is.

There is a whole personality cult around him.

Two4One2017 · 06/06/2017 08:23

I imagine there would be a very quick reorganisation in the new Labour administration, which would include more than a few old faces....

But JC has confirmed that he, McDonnell, Thornberry and Abbott are the top 4 staying in post in his Cabinet on Friday.

If he'd said when asked, "you know what I'll sack my old mate Diane and put Yvette Cooper in charge of the Home Office and while I'm at it Hilary Benn in the Foreign Office and Angela Eagle in the Treasury", I might have listened......but they were in the 172 that supported a vote of no confidence in JC.

So I have no confidence that he will have a competent team on Friday.

GrumpyOldBag · 06/06/2017 08:24

Interesting interview with Boris Johnson on R4 right now. Keeps trying to take the discussion away from his own record as foreign secretary and focus on Corbyn & Abbott. Clearly in the last few days of the campaign the Tories have been told to push hard the fear factor, not their own merits. Expect to hear other Tory politicians spouting off on this too in the next 2 days.

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