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To think people who would otherwise vote for corbyn may not because of Diane Abbott?

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chunkychicken1 · 06/06/2017 07:07

Sorry if there's already a thread about her latest cringeworthy interview but I couldn't find one... here she was on sky new last night, clearly having failed to read the police report she was there to discuss:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/

I like corbyn and what he stands for, but I can't give him my vote with these buffoons around him!

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histinyhandsarefrozen · 06/06/2017 08:57

She is awful.

There's no way I'm voting for May, Davis, and Boris to screw us over more though, no way.

mummymeister · 06/06/2017 08:58

If the tories win by a slim margin and this then seems to give some legitimacy to Corbyn, his team and his leadership then I predict that the sensible and intelligent Labour MP's will look at a breakaway party a bit like they did with the Social Democrats.

so labour voters are left with two choices if the election goes the way its expected to I guess - lose badly and Corbyn will go and the party can rebuild or lose well and your party is split in two.

I do also wonder that if they did scrape a win with the fish womans party propping them up whether the sensible Labour MP's would have the balls to hijack the situation and boot him out anyway because they, more than anyone, know how toxic he is and how unworkable his policies are.

user1471517623 · 06/06/2017 09:00

Schleeping Plays the race card?! You mean you are claiming she does, when in fact it is conversely you playing it to justify your ignorant comment. Shame on you, her colour should be the one thing that is a non issue.

user1471517623 · 06/06/2017 09:01

mummymeister i think you'll find that should he get in, there will suddenly be plenty willing to work for him.

WalkingOnLeg0 · 06/06/2017 09:02

Hadn't Corbyn banned her from going on TV? I think she sneaked in that interview without getting permission from the boss. Makes the Corbyn camp look even more chaotic that they cant find a pair of handcuffs to lock her up.

mummymeister · 06/06/2017 09:03

sorry but it isn't just about the policies. its about who is in the post to carry them out. You can have the best most attractive glossy brochure of policies that you want.

if the people charged with carrying them out don't have the necessary skills then it just isn't going to happen. basic business sense I am afraid and they just don't have the skills.

explodingkittens · 06/06/2017 09:03

Abbott has been taken ill and can't do women's hour this morning

Argeles · 06/06/2017 09:03

I despair at the dire political situation we are in.

I usually vote Labour, but was shocked and mortified when Corbyn became leader, and I was completely adamant that I would never vote for them whilst he holds that position.

I thought May was handling things quite well and was going to vote Tory, but then their manifesto came out, fox hunting is to become a thing again, May's tv appearances have been dreadful and then we've had the barbaric terror attacks.

It's got to the point where I'm changing my mind daily. Last night I'd decided that enough was enough and I'd definitely vote Labour, but I've just watched the Abbott 'entertainment' from last night and I'm truly terrified - what a horror film! I'm back to square one again.

My DH, parents and Nan are all undecided too, and usually we all vote Labour, but we are all united in our utter dislike of Corbyn, Abbott etc.

I only know of one person in real life who knows for definite how she'll vote, and she's voting Tory as she always does. I don't care who she votes for, but she says that she just votes for them because it's what all of her family do, and she doesn't really know what they stand for - ffs!!!

Rant over!!!

AllThePrettySeahorses · 06/06/2017 09:04

A quick google seems to show Abbott is arranging her own her own media appearances and Corbyn's team are furious.

As a side note - is Abbott really 63? She looks good for it.

mummymeister · 06/06/2017 09:05

user1471517623 no there wont user. there really, really wont. there are a lot of Labour MP's who have been appalled by his views.

Plus why do you think this wonderful "man of principles" is suddenly going to abandon his friends, the people who have stood by him for years through thick and thin and appoint people who openly hate him?

either he is a man of principles that you admire or he is just any other power hungry politician. you cant have it both ways.

CrossWordSalad · 06/06/2017 09:06

I agree mummymeister and I think it is also about the collective decision making process within the Labour party.

purits · 06/06/2017 09:06

Ffs people should vote for the polices they believe in not vote because of one individual in a party - it's not a personality contest. So instead of voting for the guy who wants to ...

Not getting your logic there. So we shouldn't not-vote because of 'one individual' i.e. DA but we should vote for 'the guy' i.e. JC.Confused
It's thinking like that that makes Labour unelectable.Grin

explodingkittens · 06/06/2017 09:06

CrossWord, people on this very thread have said they won't vote for Labour because of Abbott's performance on tv. You may not be going down that road, others, sadly, are.

mummymeister · 06/06/2017 09:06

they not there - fat sausage fingers and lack of coffee. apologies.

FinallyHere · 06/06/2017 09:07

Listening to Woman's Hour, I have just heard an announcement that Diane Abbot is unable to join the phone in because she is not well, here place i being taken by Emily Thornberry MP

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 06/06/2017 09:07

SO..she is ill. And someone starts a thread to say she is drunk and everyone uses it as a reason to slate her.

Maybe she was just..ill

histinyhandsarefrozen · 06/06/2017 09:08

its an election of the least worst option that's for sure.

I'm listening to voices from the Nhs, schools, universities, and now the police and I won't vote conservative.

PoisonousSmurf · 06/06/2017 09:08

Labour voters are wetting themselves with slobber at the thought of getting into power. NEVER EVER!
Not until Corbyn leaves!
Anyway, Brexit needs to be sorted first and Labour would demolish it!

WalkingOnLeg0 · 06/06/2017 09:09

I am not so sure sensible Labour politicians would join a Corbyn administration. They have their careers to think of and being associated with his destruction of the UK might not look so good for them.

Believeitornot · 06/06/2017 09:09

So, people are judging her incompetence based on media appearances alone. Nothing else.

SerfTerf · 06/06/2017 09:10

She's been ill for some time if illness is the explanation for the poor performance monkey, and so the issue becomes why the Shadow Home Sec has been allowed to carry on being so incompetent in public in the weeks before a GE.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 06/06/2017 09:10

How would labour demolish brexit?

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/06/2017 09:11

Abbott is just the easy example of some of the things I don't like about Corbyn's team but mostly I don't like his policies or the amount of them. Changing up Diane Abbott wouldn't sway me - Corbyn, McDonnell, Thornberry, Rayner - that'd be a start if they all went.

MacarenaFerreiro · 06/06/2017 09:11

Maybe the senior leadership in Labour has finally stepped in and said enough is enough.

Thornberry is far more professional and much less of a liability.

I also agree that there's space for a new centre-ground party. A new "New Labour" if you like. Not a hard left nationalise everything and let's sit around singing Kum Ba Yah with terrorists party, and not as far right as the Conservatives. That woudl tempt back voters like me who voted for Blair in 1997 and have never voted Labour since.

In fact, I propose Chuka Umuna, Yvette Cooper, Margaret Beckett and Hillary Benn as the new "Gang of Four".

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 06/06/2017 09:11

If she's that ill then she should not have been standing for an MP. And her manager, Corbyn, should not have allowed her to stand.

She has form for pulling out of uncomfortable situations with migraines.

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