To think people who would otherwise vote for corbyn may not because of Diane Abbott?

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Sorry if there's already a thread about her latest cringeworthy interview but I couldn't find one... here she was on sky new last night, clearly having failed to read the police report she was there to discuss:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/

I like corbyn and what he stands for, but I can't give him my vote with these buffoons around him!

There are so many people who feel sorry for her/think she is being bullied but this total hypocrisy - imagine if this was a prominent member of May's cabinet - they would be hung, drawn and quartered by the press.
Just think what the Mumsnet Massive would have said if Rudd had spouted a complete load of mumbling bollocks on prime time TV!!!

I didn't believe she voluntarily pulled out of yesterday's media interviews/ hustings before the prank emails, and now we know beyond any reasonable doubt....

This woman is dangerous and not fit for office.

Yes another one who's beginning to think that first part the post isn't working as it doesn't force better policies through compromise and we don't have enough democratic consensus for FPTP these days.

Corbyn has been interviewed this morning, has said that Abbott has withdrawn from the campaign and there"/ be a proper statement on this later today.

(And yes, the MN echo chamber would have given quite a different thread has it been a Tory candidate)

May has rounded on the citizenry.

Fund the police. Give them support. Hands off our rights!

Totally agree with you OP. I like what JC stands for but her in a position of power is just laughable. And scary.

Make - still not going to say who you work for then!!

another post that sounds like a voting poster. People aren't fooled you know.

of course Abbott has been pulled out the campaign she had to be.

but where is John McDonnell - not one appearance. anyone else wonder why?

the reason you see so much of corbyn in this campaign is that the rest of his cabinet are duds. none of the decent, intelligent MPs in his party will work with him. they must be praying for a loss tomorrow so that they can ditch him.

How is jc aiming to detain terrorist suspects as he said he would without changing human rights laws?

Yes no John macdonalds anywhere

The cult of Corbyn

I remember the cult of Blair, I thought he was the second coming. Look how that turned out

mummy would absolutely not describe Yvette Cooper who gave a big speech yesterday as a 'dud'. She was very supportive. Or Kier Starmer. John McDonnell has been all over the place - big article in The Guardian on Saturday...what are you looking at?

Diane has stood down

*mcdonnell!

No she's been stood down as Corbyn had no choice.

She is standing down. It's breaking news. Seems she is really ill. If this is so I am really sorry for her. You can hear the scraping of the barrel as Corbyn looks around for the equal of Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Alan Johnson, Hilary Benn etc etc.

She looked unwell, now they say she is, still people sneer

bruffian those who are nervous of human rights (and there was an interesting discussion on Newsnight last night) point out that the sufficient powers are already in place and there could be tweaks where there is insufficient evidence to convict in courts but with enough data to detain. The issue is not powers but resources.

Removal of rights - this attack on the rule of law itself - should never be done for political reasons.

May needs to stand down.

Sorry but that is rubbish. Show me an interview where Boris answers a direct question or even May herself. Her stock response is strong and stable or blah means blah. I find it uncomfortable the amount of rhetoric directed at Abbott because she is black and female. She's made a few mistakes but many MPs have but I've never heard them called dirty which I've heard directed at Abbott.

So JC has now duped her, is it safe to vote for him, or could she make a come back?

I see she has been caught out in a email trick admitting that her illness is all made up.

I agree completely about FPTP and indeed single party in power - it encourages dualism and tribal loyalty. If we were thinking that our government would be formed by a proportional mixture of the parties we wouldn't worry so much about one or two individuals and the role they might play. I think Diane Abbott is rubbish but we've got to vote for the policies we want.

May's key problem is her brittle and inflexible stance. The policy suggestions she has proposed are too wooly and badly worded to stand up in law. She has wasted a lot of time and a huge amount of public money (3 QCs at a time) because of her intractability in recognising human rights legislation so she just wants to be out of it. We need to stand by countries and share data without what looks like an increasing tit for tat. Eg Italy - we knew this person but you didn't. So damaging for the reputation of GB. She's unsafe.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-labour-replaced-sacked-lyn-brown-general-election-2017-jeremy-corbyn-a7776491.html

She's unsafe.

The crux.

But we had a referendum on whether to change to PR. Only 41% of people bothered to vote (I was one of them!).

Blame them, not the system.

Same as the actual vote tomorrow. Regardless of who wins, anyone who doesn't bother to vote is a muppet. It's fine to spoil your ballot paper if you don't feel that any of them speak for you. But have a say, ffs!

Dan very true indeed. People moan about Europe and what they see as the encroachment of Europe so a key UK voice in Europe (when he turns up - 2nd worse voting record of MEPS) becomes Nigel Farage, who tried and failed 7 times to get a seat here, knew he was on to a good thing (and 100k a year and funds for UKIP - they are trying to get some of that money back), by standing in the European Elections where hardly anyone votes (in the UK) there also.

yes, I voted against PR in that referendum because coalition govt can be weak and divisive, and UKIP - the undue weight extremist parties can have.

I'm beginning to think though that since the democratic consensus has frayed in the UK over Brexit and Indyref and in my view the massive amount of people still in the centre/centre left/centre right aren't being represented.

The moderates like me who want existing services competently reformed and better funded, not large cuts or large state expansion.