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To think people who would otherwise vote for corbyn may not because of Diane Abbott?

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chunkychicken1 · 06/06/2017 07:07

Sorry if there's already a thread about her latest cringeworthy interview but I couldn't find one... here she was on sky new last night, clearly having failed to read the police report she was there to discuss:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/

I like corbyn and what he stands for, but I can't give him my vote with these buffoons around him!

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NoLotteryWinYet · 06/06/2017 21:25

yes I don't like thornberry either, or any of the current labour top team - the Abbott thing seems neither here nor there, I don't trust any of them after the way the shadow cabinet imploded due to the inability of any of Corbyn's inner team to compromise or achieve a working consensus.

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:38

sos

She's the shadow Home Secretary and not up to the job.

We are being attacked by terrorists and teenage girls are being bueried this week.

I don't really care what her issues are.

What planet are you on.

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 21:38

Oh so you know her personally then anklewingers.? Well you must do to make such sweeping statements.

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:41

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Justanotherlurker · 06/06/2017 21:41

I feel that attacking someone in this way just shows what an uncaring society we have become.

Hyperbole, she has had many car crash interviews that any politician would rightly criticised for, after her first car crash interview over the police funding people where coming out saying that they think she was ill as an excuse, if you ignore her getting caught out in emails she has said she is ill herself, people are going to speculate, it is not a sign of an uncaring society, calm down.

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 21:43

I admit that in her present condition she may not be fit for home secretary. My posts I put on a while ago seemed to have disappeared but what I said was that I believe she is just seeing out the election because she has always been a staunch worker for the party and that us probably why JC hasn't sacked her yet. But I think he will think hard and long to make a difficult decision in the light of her loyalty to both the party and himself if he were to get elected.

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:49

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DrDreReturns · 06/06/2017 21:49

Even if DA was a drunk it is an actual illness.
It's an illness that would disqualify you from holding high office, I'd hope.
I'm voting Labour, but in some ways that's against my better judgement wrt to Diane Abbott. She's just not up to the job. If Labour win she will need to lead the Home Office. How can she do that if she can't get her read around the figures and reports that will land on her desk!

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 21:51

I am very sorry that you have had a loved one injured in a terrorist attack waitforitdear Flowers. I can understand your anger and forgive your outburst.

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:52

How had labour come to this? Remembering the heady Blaire early days with fond memories.

I mean May Isn't the best either but she's the least worst option.

Feeling quite depressed

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 21:53

WaitforitdearCakeBrewBear

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:53

sos no not me thankyou it's piglet and please don't apologise you have no need. I think we are all decent people if argumentative xx

errorofjudgement · 06/06/2017 21:54

JC has announced today that Diane Abbott is unwell.

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:55

I know we are all decent people xx

Vango · 06/06/2017 21:56

She's the shadow Home Secretary and not up to the job.

We are being attacked by terrorists and teenage girls are being bueried this week.

And the incumbent government is doing such a brilliant job then, eh?

Whatever you think about Diane Abbott - she's NOT in charge!

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 21:57

I blame globalisation waitforitdear, the ever increasing divide between rich and poor, a self first philosophy across the world, lack of any real talent in Parliament across the parties, the loss if real democracy, the list us endless think I will join you in a brew and a nice slice of cake!

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:57

Well I hope she gets the help she needs obviously.

citroenpresse · 06/06/2017 21:57

liabilities who have been hidden away
Liam Fox - now isn't he the chap that is a leading Brexit negotiator for the Tories? Absolutely no press release, or interview or any kind of media appearance throughout the whole campaign. Maybe it was the 'inappropriate merging of professional and private life" raised (yet) again or 20 years of funding ultra right think tanks.
Jeremy Hunt - The NHS has a major cyber attack and he doesn't make any kind of statement for THREE DAYS.

These aren't 'shadow' positions but major Government roles!

waitforitfdear · 06/06/2017 21:59

I think you are right sos Smile

vangoat risk of touchy feeky unmumsnet I agree with you what indeed is the answer?

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 22:01

Alls forgiven waitforitdear. Peace to you and your kin and to all on here. I am sure you are all decent people politics always gets heated, I am prone to it too!

OnlyOneOfThose · 06/06/2017 22:02

Not RTFT, but in response to the OP, no

Vango · 06/06/2017 22:07

at risk of touchy feeky unmumsnet I agree with you what indeed is the answer?

The answer is to vote for the party most aligned with your principles and beliefs and don't be distracted by individual performances. Apologies, I posted the same on here before work and haven't had time to read all replies this evening. But in response to the question posed in the thread title - no, one MP won't change my vote.

user1495484765 · 06/06/2017 22:09

172 Labour MPs did not think that Corbyn was fit to be the Labour lead but she stood by him, and now he is doing the same for her. I would not vote Labour because of Corbyn (who has never held a post before in the shadow cabinet/cabinet in all the 30 years plus he has been an MP so no other leader recognised him as being a leader or worthy of a senior role) and his questionable views on terrorism and our defence as a nation. If 172 MPs think that why would I vote for him.

I think Abbott is completely out of her depth and patronising with it, and racist. There is some twitter chat that she has been duped into an email exchange with someone masquerading as a Labour press bod that she was going to use illness as an excuse to pull out of further interviews. She was photographed near Radio 4 this morning, on the phone and then pulled out of the Women's Hour interview swiftly after that, or more likely, ordered not to do it. That is not the only time she has used illness as an excuse to swerve a difficult event/vote. So, disingenuous, condescending, incompetent- not the attributes I want from a Home Sec. Oh and hypocritical too - private school anybody.

McDonnell is a thug and terrorist sympathiser.

Momentum, the hard left are running the show.

I didn't like the fact that Corbyn said he would not create any peerages. He gave Shami Chakrabarti one, after her independent review into anti-semitism in Labour Party. Seemed a bit too convenient. And until they realised she was a vote loser they were wheeling her out as Labour spokesperson. If Shami wanted power she should have tried to get an MPs set, but being a constituency MP was not for her, she wants power without the graft. All too hypocritical.

I will be voting Tory but based on the best worse option. Teresa May looks the part, has gravitas, a bit of an android, but has turned out to be all fur coat, no knickers.

Sostenueto · 06/06/2017 22:11

I think that as a species we need to look hard and deep at ourselves as a whole. We as a species are naturally aggressive. It is why we have took over the world, ruined mother earth and fight and kill each other in the name of religion, power and greed. But despite our genes we must make concerted efforts to look around at our neighbours and fellow humans and embrace their differences, appearances and different points if view and come together to make our world a better place for all. And now I can honestly say I must be in cloud cuckoo land because it will take hundreds of years to achieve, but every act of kindness, every little allowances we give other for mistakes, every little admittance to not being perfect, every little bit if tolerance and understanding we give each other and every bit if sharing will get us there in the end. Peace and love, what else does one need?

noblegiraffe · 06/06/2017 22:47

First past the post encourages this kind of aggressive fighting and smearing. Proportional representation would encourage much more co-operation, compromise and working together.

I hate this voting system.

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