Honey and Bees I do think things are starting to change.
Here are two clergymen talking about Islamist extremism. (I have posted these links on another thread, but I think it is worth putting them on this one)
I think there has been a level of denial and of silencing of people who try to talk about the problem going on.I think the first step is people being able to talk honestly and realistically about what is happening with out cries of racism and "Islamophobia" every time they try to. Once we can do this, I think things will start to change.
Here's the Archbishop of Canterbury:
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/archbishop-canterbury-justin-welby-london-attack-islam-twisted-misused-muslim-faith-a7772916.html
Faith leaders must take responsibility for countering the religious justification for atrocities committed in their name, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, has said.
The Most Reverend Welby said throughout history religious scriptures have "been twisted and misused" by people to justify hates of violence and "We have got to say that if something happens within our own faith tradition we need to take responsibility for countering that".
He said politicians should not just say "this is nothing to do with Islam" and focus on the security of political aspects of it as it is also an ideological problem
And here is an Anglican priest, Rev’d Dr Gavin Ashenden.
archbishopcranmer.com/need-talk-jesus-mohammed-christianity-islam/
The Mayor of Greater Manchester Andy Burnham claimed in public that Salman Abedi, the man who slaughtered children in the Manchester bombing, was not a real Muslim:
“The message that I would want to get over – and this is how the vast majority of people feel – this man was a terrorist, not a Muslim.”
But how does Mr Burnham know that? It appeared that it simply was not true. Salman Abedi’s friends, who obviously knew him well, say that the truth was different. They describe him as a devout Muslim who had even memorised the Koran.
At the memorial service held after Khalid Masood had killed bystanders on Westminster Bridge, the Dean of Westminster Abbey Dr John Hall offered this reflection in his sermon:
“What happened a fortnight ago leaves us bewildered. What could possibly motivate a man to hire a car and take it from Birmingham to Brighton to London, and then drive it fast at people he had never met, couldn’t possibly know, against whom he had no personal grudge, no reason to hate them and then run at the gates of the Palace of Westminster to cause another death? It seems likely that we shall never know.”
But that wasn’t true. We did come to know – only days later. In fact, in his last WhatsApp message, sent just before he died, he had declared that he was waging jihad:
“..in revenge against Western military action in Muslim countries in the Middle East.”
Dr Hall never put the record straight.