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Nasty message from friend

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mummymummums · 30/05/2017 19:19

Some background. About 4 years ago we came into an established friendship group of 4 families, through a shared hobby. There was a 4 family whatsapp group that we were added to. Family 1 and Family 2 are the main people in the story.
Families 3 and 4 got dropped (not by us) pretty soon after our arrival in the group. Family 2 set up a new whatsapp group just for families 1, 2 and us. The reasons they were dropped seemed valid (e.g. Borrowing stuff and returning it trashed regularly, or being given stuff (hobby related) and selling it straight after for significant profit.) We invited Family 3 and 4 to a couple of BBQs at ours but their being part of the group fizzled out and we didn't know them well.
For the last 3 years a friendship has continued with us and families 1 and 2, with BBQs regularly and get togethers. The parents of the DH in family 1 also started coming to events at family 1's house, and family 2 became particularly close to them. Family 1 parents are in 70s but youngish at heart and lovely.
Last year me and DH realised that despite having had family 2 to ours many many times, they have never once invited us to anything. Only us or family 1 ever hosted (we thought), but we became aware that family 2 were hosting, but only inviting family 1 and parents of family 1. It was being done secretly. We then became aware from a slip up by the DH in family 2 that a secret whatsapp had been set up for families 1, 2 and parents of family 1. We still invited families 1 and 2 over, and we went to family 1's house many times and they even joined us for a couple of days on holiday last year (their idea). The DW in family 2 organised an event (hobby related) and invited a few ladies (all of whom I knew) but not me. I felt hurt but realised that for whatever reason she did not welcome us to the group, albeit she was happy to come to ours to be catered for if we asked.
We realised that if we wanted to be friends with family 1, we still needed to invite family 2 to our events, which we did.
Then last September family 2 moved 100 miles away. We were quite pleased really as there was no ignoring that they were never reciprocating, and it was getting irritating.
After they were gone we suggested a few outings to family 1, but all were declined. I think they had valid reasons. Then at Xmas I suggested they gone up with any date to suit them, and come to us for a meal. They seemed keen but never came up with a date, instead telling us that friends were visiting from the US and they wanted to keep themselves free for him.
We pretty much gave up. We knew DW of family 2 was not a fan of ours, but we'd thought that family 1 had become solid friends.
8 months passed since we last saw them and we realised we'd been dropped, like families 3 and 4. But no idea why. We were aware that families 1 and 2 and the parents of family 1 were meeting up, with family 2 staying with the parents but it was being done secretly.
Then last Sunday family 1 posted pics of them all in the pub. So I did something silly that I regret. I posted a meme on Facebook saying "At some point you have to forget those people who have forgotten you." I hate these PA things usually but I decided it mentally drew a line for me. Me and DH (who completely agrees we've been dropped and that family 2 never wanted us) left the whatsapp group that hadn't actually been used since last year anyway.
Next morning I get a very shirty message from DW of family 1. She said she had no idea I felt that way, I shouldn't judge people, she's very busy and her friends accept that, and she feels sick. I replied explaining why we felt that way. I explained that we really liked all of them, but in 3 years had not had a single invite from family 2, and had been actively left out of anything arranged by family 2. I said we felt uncomfortable and acknowledged they had a strong friendship with family 2 so hadn't said anything and carried on including everyone. However, when our last few invites to them (family 1) were declined, we left it, but had realised we were forgotten, having gone from at least 2 get togethers a month to nothing in 8 months. I reiterated that they meant a lot to us.
The reply I got was so upsetting. She said:
"Oh my god Mummy. Get your bloody head out of your arse. Think this over!"
WIBU to try to explain? I'm so cross with myself for bothering. I can see this is what they do, dropping people, but she seems to be denying that we were dropped I think. Seemingly suggesting that friends ought to take whatever crumbs they offer. I always knew that the message from me meant no return, not least as family 1 DW would never entertain the idea that family 2 DW had excluded us. But 3 years, multiple events hosted by us, not a single one back, I surely didn't imagine it?? And 8 months of no contact surely isn't normal when you were seeing people all the time??
What did I do? I feel shocked and keep replaying it.
I do appreciate that people can choose to be friends with whoever they want, and that often we won't be included in everything. But we haven't been included in a single thing for 8 months.
Please don't flame me for the meme. I realise I was BU on that.
I think the right thing to do is not reply now, no one will ever see it from our point of view. I reality checked with DH before posting anything as he's the most level headed person I know and he can't understand the reaction about my arse and head either.
Please anyone tell me where I went wrong (other than the meme)

OP posts:
ClarabelleB · 31/05/2017 22:26

You are better off without them I've known people like this....just keep in mind that 'what goes around comes around' karma will catch up with them and bite them on the bum it always does!

BraayTigger · 31/05/2017 22:26

I hope your Dad will be ok. Try not to worry about these issues with your friends, you have too much on your own plate with your Dad unwell. If they are real friends then they will be there for you too. Make sure you look after yourself too xx

hookiewookie29 · 31/05/2017 22:45

We were in almost exactly the same situation a few years ago. Moved house, made good friends with neighbours who were the same age as us. Went out for meals, drinks, to the theatre, on holiday etc. Helped and supported them through IVF.....etc etc. Then we had a big party for my 40th and they got talking to some other friends of ours.
They dropped us like hot bricks and moved onto the other friends. 4 years ago they moved house-we didn't even know they were going until the for sale sign went up! They never said goodbye and we don't even know where they've gone.Within hours of moving the had both unfriended us and all our mutual friends on facebook and had got her sister and niece and nephew (who I used to childmind!) to unfriend us too.
It hurts, OP.We did so much to help them-way more than they ever did for us-and that's how they treated us.
However several months later we found out from someone else that they had 'form' for it-they did exactly the same to them!

Life is too short to fret over shitty shallow people who think nothing of casting people aside like an old toy when they get fed up of them.They will end up old and lonely, not me.

Soozikinzii · 31/05/2017 22:54

Just chalk it up to experience .you realise as you get older that friendship groups change .You need to move on and make some new friends as a family xx

Mafrid2 · 31/05/2017 23:00

@fakeplastictealeaves ... U rock 🤘 😂. Why can I never think of witty responses like like that?!!!

gamerwidow · 31/05/2017 23:05

I'd give her a chance to explain. I had a friend who dropped off the radar for about a year. She ignored all my texts and attempts to meet up and I really thought it was the end of the friendship. It turned out that she was having an awful time with her partner and they ended up splitting up and she had a breakdown. Once she got her head together she got back in touch and we're still friends. It's not always personal sometimes circumstances get out of hand.

Lightpurpletulip · 31/05/2017 23:20

Sorry to hear this OP.
I haven't read the whole thread but I have the jist. This is exactly why I have distanced myself from a group of so called 'friends'. They only invited me to things when they felt like it and generally made me feel crappy.
I will continue to catch up with individual, genuine friends who are able to give two seconds of their day to send the odd "Hi. How are ya?" text.
Invest your time in the people who really matter in your life. You're well rid.
Flowers

BerylStreep · 31/05/2017 23:29

Honestly, even with her conciliatory message, I would have nothing more to do with her. She has shown her true colours. No matter what was going on in her life, she could have taken 5 minutes to send you a text.

Her reply to you was nasty and aggressive. You are well rid tbh. How could you ever really trust her again?

Is there any hint of jealousy? Does her DH fancy you? Would she think you fancied either DH1 or DH2?

Catwaving · 31/05/2017 23:49

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Lightpurpletulip · 31/05/2017 23:49
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Longtime · 01/06/2017 00:03

My dsil (dh's sister) used to come for the whole day (she doesn't drive so her dh would drop her off before work and pick her up after work) for a lot of the school holidays. The cousins get on well so no problem. Over the years this decreased as dcs got older with dcs preferring to come here so dbil would just drop them off and pick them up unless it was a weekend when she would pop in. My df died in January a year after being diagnosed with cancer. During that year dsil asked after him only once. However, she was very sweet when he passed away. Fast forward to march and I realise she isn't speaking to me. This only came to light because I asked her a question on messenger and her answer was so short it was rude. I tried to chat but nothing. I have no idea what I've done (as I haven't really had any contact with her) and she refuses to engage in any conversation with me about it. It's ridiculous as it willl make any family gatherings awkward.

Hissy · 01/06/2017 00:04

She told you to get your head out of your arse.... That's at complete odds to message 1 and 3

I don't buy it.

TheweewitchRoz · 01/06/2017 00:09

You've seen their true colours Op, it's up to you now to believe it (or choose not to but you have seen it).

Aria999 · 01/06/2017 00:11

She said sorry- she has a lot going on and this came out of the blue, she was more angry because she was already feeling a bit bad about not being in touch and she didn't stop to think that the OP might have a point... it's possible. Then again she might just be a b1tch as it originally seemed... I think it wouldn't be crazy if you wanted to give it another chance, equally if you don't have the emotional energy with your dad being ill then that's fine too. Sorry to hear about your dad op. Hugs.

cailyaclara · 01/06/2017 02:24

Be really wary and guard yourself if you do meet her. I speak from bitter personal experience of giving people the benefit of the doubt and it doesn't always end well. Really hope your dad is ok xxxx

Borodin · 01/06/2017 02:31

Hmm. Your post was really hard to read so I copied it and put in lots of blank lines, and changed "family 1" to Smith and "family 2" to Jones. Now I have a picture of a fickle group of friends who are centred on the Smiths. They're confident in being popular, and have a captive audience in Mr Smith's parents.

I'm wondering if you really like these people? You make it sound like they were the only friends you had and now they're gone.

Please be confident in yourself. The meme may have been misjudged but it was probably deserved, and you mustn't bow to anyone because you made a mistake.

Go out and be Family 1 and draw people to you. I'll be your friend if you like! But don't expect to like everyone once you dig beneath the surface: everyone is a little bit ugly when you remove the facade, and you are no different.

The only way to find life-long friends is to discover them. They will have been humming the same tune as you before you met them. Be brave: go out and discover other people and talk to them about who they are and one day you will be astonished!

Borodin · 01/06/2017 02:36

Hissy This "Oh my god Mummy. Get your bloody head out of your arse. Think this over!" seemed strange to me too. How is the OP "mummy" to Family 1?

Mummynextdoor · 01/06/2017 02:44

Borodin - I think 'Mummy' was a substitute for her real name as it's her user name.

I don't see any problem in keeping in touch op but I don't think I'd be investing as much time in Family 1, hosting their extended family etc.

Sorry to hear about your Dad xx

SofiaAmes · 01/06/2017 03:08

Was there any flirting between husbands/wives of the various families?

SeekingSugar · 01/06/2017 03:32

I think you tried to Wendy family 1 and it's come back to bite you on the arse.

emmyrose2000 · 01/06/2017 04:46

Please do not meet up with this woman, or anyone in the group for that matter. Her awful behaviour and the messages have shown you her real colours. Do not fall for it again. Maintain your dignity. Going back to her (now) will just make you look desperate.

I'd personally have ignored the latest message she sent you. I wouldn't be interested in her excuses. Plenty of people have shit going on in their lives but they don't treat their supposed friends like crap. But it's not too late to block her and family two and just move on with your life.

justnippingin · 01/06/2017 07:39

Cripes, such hard work! Sounds messy, you were goady in posting on FB but honestly, are they really worth the time and effort?

Groovee · 01/06/2017 07:49

I'd be very wary... I reckon her and DW2 have had time to talk and attempt to try sort it out before replying.

Concentrate on your dad for just now x

Kika2901 · 01/06/2017 07:51

They sounds horrible. Thing is friends who make you feel like that make it very difficult to explain why you feel that way without sounding like a child. You feel left out and it's school yard behaviour. Real friends don't ever make you feel that way. Give them a taste of their own medicine and just drop them, no contact, no invites, no cryptic ace book memes which are just passive aggressive and inviting hostility. I'm going through something similar and have got to a point where I've drawn a line underneath our friendship now and I'm moving on! Good luck. You will meet other friends who will actually give you the time of day x

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/06/2017 07:53

I think you tried to Wendy family 1.

Where do you get that from?

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