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Nasty message from friend

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mummymummums · 30/05/2017 19:19

Some background. About 4 years ago we came into an established friendship group of 4 families, through a shared hobby. There was a 4 family whatsapp group that we were added to. Family 1 and Family 2 are the main people in the story.
Families 3 and 4 got dropped (not by us) pretty soon after our arrival in the group. Family 2 set up a new whatsapp group just for families 1, 2 and us. The reasons they were dropped seemed valid (e.g. Borrowing stuff and returning it trashed regularly, or being given stuff (hobby related) and selling it straight after for significant profit.) We invited Family 3 and 4 to a couple of BBQs at ours but their being part of the group fizzled out and we didn't know them well.
For the last 3 years a friendship has continued with us and families 1 and 2, with BBQs regularly and get togethers. The parents of the DH in family 1 also started coming to events at family 1's house, and family 2 became particularly close to them. Family 1 parents are in 70s but youngish at heart and lovely.
Last year me and DH realised that despite having had family 2 to ours many many times, they have never once invited us to anything. Only us or family 1 ever hosted (we thought), but we became aware that family 2 were hosting, but only inviting family 1 and parents of family 1. It was being done secretly. We then became aware from a slip up by the DH in family 2 that a secret whatsapp had been set up for families 1, 2 and parents of family 1. We still invited families 1 and 2 over, and we went to family 1's house many times and they even joined us for a couple of days on holiday last year (their idea). The DW in family 2 organised an event (hobby related) and invited a few ladies (all of whom I knew) but not me. I felt hurt but realised that for whatever reason she did not welcome us to the group, albeit she was happy to come to ours to be catered for if we asked.
We realised that if we wanted to be friends with family 1, we still needed to invite family 2 to our events, which we did.
Then last September family 2 moved 100 miles away. We were quite pleased really as there was no ignoring that they were never reciprocating, and it was getting irritating.
After they were gone we suggested a few outings to family 1, but all were declined. I think they had valid reasons. Then at Xmas I suggested they gone up with any date to suit them, and come to us for a meal. They seemed keen but never came up with a date, instead telling us that friends were visiting from the US and they wanted to keep themselves free for him.
We pretty much gave up. We knew DW of family 2 was not a fan of ours, but we'd thought that family 1 had become solid friends.
8 months passed since we last saw them and we realised we'd been dropped, like families 3 and 4. But no idea why. We were aware that families 1 and 2 and the parents of family 1 were meeting up, with family 2 staying with the parents but it was being done secretly.
Then last Sunday family 1 posted pics of them all in the pub. So I did something silly that I regret. I posted a meme on Facebook saying "At some point you have to forget those people who have forgotten you." I hate these PA things usually but I decided it mentally drew a line for me. Me and DH (who completely agrees we've been dropped and that family 2 never wanted us) left the whatsapp group that hadn't actually been used since last year anyway.
Next morning I get a very shirty message from DW of family 1. She said she had no idea I felt that way, I shouldn't judge people, she's very busy and her friends accept that, and she feels sick. I replied explaining why we felt that way. I explained that we really liked all of them, but in 3 years had not had a single invite from family 2, and had been actively left out of anything arranged by family 2. I said we felt uncomfortable and acknowledged they had a strong friendship with family 2 so hadn't said anything and carried on including everyone. However, when our last few invites to them (family 1) were declined, we left it, but had realised we were forgotten, having gone from at least 2 get togethers a month to nothing in 8 months. I reiterated that they meant a lot to us.
The reply I got was so upsetting. She said:
"Oh my god Mummy. Get your bloody head out of your arse. Think this over!"
WIBU to try to explain? I'm so cross with myself for bothering. I can see this is what they do, dropping people, but she seems to be denying that we were dropped I think. Seemingly suggesting that friends ought to take whatever crumbs they offer. I always knew that the message from me meant no return, not least as family 1 DW would never entertain the idea that family 2 DW had excluded us. But 3 years, multiple events hosted by us, not a single one back, I surely didn't imagine it?? And 8 months of no contact surely isn't normal when you were seeing people all the time??
What did I do? I feel shocked and keep replaying it.
I do appreciate that people can choose to be friends with whoever they want, and that often we won't be included in everything. But we haven't been included in a single thing for 8 months.
Please don't flame me for the meme. I realise I was BU on that.
I think the right thing to do is not reply now, no one will ever see it from our point of view. I reality checked with DH before posting anything as he's the most level headed person I know and he can't understand the reaction about my arse and head either.
Please anyone tell me where I went wrong (other than the meme)

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Sparklyglitter · 31/05/2017 18:50

I agree with gamerwidow- and also some people are juts shallow and plain old entitled expecting that you should just accept the crumbs of friendship you are given! We all do silly things when we are upset and we may realise that they may not be our best moments but they sound shallow find yourself some new lovely friends Smile

e1y1 · 31/05/2017 18:53

You didn't do anything wrong.

They sound like a very unhealthy group of friends, to be honest, you're better off out of it.

There are 7+billion people on Earth, find some new friends, who won't treat you like dirt.

Mummyoflittledragon · 31/05/2017 18:56

Wife 1 is either being controlled by w2 or enjoys all of the drama as well. Whatever the situation, you are better off finding friends, who value you and I know it is hard and takes time. When we are looking towards certain people, we are looking away from others. Turn your back to your former friends and you are facing other potential friends.

daydreambeliever21 · 31/05/2017 19:01

These people had set up a special whatsapp group for them and their special friends. That's what teenagers do and it isn't very grown up and it doesn't even slightly represent what a real friendship is. This isn't done to include- it is done to exclude, to make others feel deliberately left out and to make those within the group feel special and "chosen". However, those within the group are constantly backbiting and bitching about each other. They do this to cement their own position in the group. All the while you are joining in and being nasty about one family, you can be sure the tables won't turn on you. Families 1 and 2 bitch about 3 and 4, ending up excluding them. They then, no doubt, did the same about you and will continue to do the same to the next group of "friends".
Best advice is to be glad you are out of it. You had some good times and probably some good memories so try not to look back in anger but it is time to leave the children to their games.

Earthmother1 · 31/05/2017 19:04

I think you're better off without all four families! What a liad of immature, insecure spiteful people they are!

I think in future when you make new friendships make sure that one isn't impacted by another and though friends do fall iut, have musunderstandings etc, if yo find people are secretive and won't resolve issues/let things go do they really deserve your froendship? Aren't you worth more than yhat?

Lovingit81 · 31/05/2017 19:12

I'd be super childish and say something you know is going to hurt. Something along the lines of 'ok no problem, I've obviously upset you but do you think for your next friendship you could sort your bad breath out!' But I'm a child Grin

DomJolyNurse · 31/05/2017 19:33

I think friendship had already gone.
That is why she responded to the facebook meme, she knew it was referring to her having forgotton or dropped you.
Don't reply to her again or think it through too much. It may be her pattern to drop people.

KimmySchmidt1 · 31/05/2017 19:34

Family 1 sounds like a bunch of a-holes, forget about them. I have literally no idea what her reply to you meant. Think it through? Think what through? Anyway, she seems dreadful. I can be horrible to be insulted like that and not reply, but I think you did the right thing by explaining, and she has been incredibly childish. Leave it.

Ladyrainbowsparkles · 31/05/2017 19:55

Wish then the best of luck with their future endeavours..as they are going to nees ot being the absolute cunts that they are Grin and move on. They sound like shitty people, but the alarm bells should have been ringing when they dropped families 3 and 4.

Smallangryplanet · 31/05/2017 20:00

I like aye's reply: "I don't need to [think it over]. We all know where we stand." Then block them all. Or just block her/them.

They sound horrible, you are better off without them.

OldGuard · 31/05/2017 20:14

None of this sounds like mature adult friendships - better off out of it

Serialweightwatcher · 31/05/2017 20:17

Sorry nrft but for you to put that meme on as a general post and her to send you a message about it, it seems to me that she was waiting for an opportunity for you to become the 'victim' ... she knows just how much she's blown you out already and wants the non friendship to be down to you. You are honestly well rid of such shitty people ... you'll meet better friends who don't use you or plan things behind your back Flowers

deedeegee · 31/05/2017 20:31

YANBU- well off out of it- delete them from your mind!

Riotgrrrl · 31/05/2017 20:39

I am so sorry that this happened to you. You are better off without them.

I have been dumped in a very similar way, I was heartbroken - she was my maid of honour and was there at the birth of DS. It still hurts now 10 years later. Someone better had come along and I wasn't as much fun any more - I had a very young DS and was depressed and in her words she had too many things to deal with to speak to me!

I had seen her 'dump' people in the past but thought our friendship was special. I think it was worse than splitting up with a boyfriend - at least I would have shagged someone else and moved onWink She is a total sociopath and gets what she wants and moves on to the next person. Her lies were astounding and I have heard all sorts of things since our friendship ended from very reliable sources. I have found this thread really comforting if that isn't too weird but I am so sorry you are going through this.

Rudi44 · 31/05/2017 21:16

Without reading the whole thing they all sound vile to be honest and I think you have dodged a bullet. Go cold turkey and get rid of the lot of them on social media, they are toxic.

Skylander01 · 31/05/2017 21:20

Poor you. It feels horrible when you realise somebody doesn't want you around. I know people go on about high school, but it doesn't matter how old you are - this is how humans act. I have been strung along by a friend recently, but keep getting excuses about why she can't make the time to meet up. I have given up now. I have also seen elderly women in nursing homes gang up on another one and refuse to let her sit at their table. It was awful to watch. I hope you meet other couples that you can be friends with, try not to feel bad - it's not you - it's them!

Thingamajiggy · 31/05/2017 21:22

This whole set up sounds absolutely horrific - what kind of people are you hanging around with?? None of this is normal behaviour and they don't sound like genuine people at all. You were right to try to explain why you were upset. Get some new friends.

mummymummums · 31/05/2017 21:27

Hello, I'm back, sorry for silence. Late last night DW of family 1 messaged me - general gist was that her last message was sent out of exasperation, she didn't sleep after sending it, she's had a rough time (various issues listed which are indeed horrible and which I knew nothing of), family 2 do like us and she's not sharing all this with them, and she'd like it if I would go cycling and talk with her.
My head is very fried and I've done an 11 hour day at work. I think
I mentioned earlier that my Dad is v unwell and his decline is rapid, which was not on the radar when all this started a few days ago.
So I only said I can't get my head round everything or think straight.
I've said I'll come back to her, and she's happy with that. I don't think that more messages are the way to go with her, so I'm thinking I'll meet her at some point but not likely imminently as my focus is on my Dad.
Thank you everyone, lots to think about and all been a great help.

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Aria999 · 31/05/2017 21:36

Lucky that you didn't reply to her original message! Hope you will be able to talk it through properly and resolve things with her now.

mactavish · 31/05/2017 21:56

Great, she has responded. But she's still too dangerous to have a friendship with, how can you ever trust her?

I would now ignore her for at least 8 months and be vague if she asks you for a date.

Hope your dad gets better.

Aeroflotgirl · 31/05/2017 22:08

Be very wary! She said fami,y 2 like you, well the dh does, the wife is a nasty manipulator. I woukd keep them at arms length. Thinking of you, and your dad💐💐💐💐

honeyroar · 31/05/2017 22:12

I think you replied with the right thing. Concentrate on your dad and yourself for now, meet up with her in a bit, if you feel like it. It's good that she kind of apologised.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 31/05/2017 22:14

She's ignored you for 8 months. She isn't a friend. You owe her nothing. Concentrate on you and your Dad.

LittleBeautyBelle · 31/05/2017 22:20

Agree with all the above posters. So glad she responded in the way she did....be wary because of w2's influence though.

Aeroflotgirl · 31/05/2017 22:23

She is dangerous, she's been blowing you off time and time again. Just be wary.

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