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Nasty message from friend

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mummymummums · 30/05/2017 19:19

Some background. About 4 years ago we came into an established friendship group of 4 families, through a shared hobby. There was a 4 family whatsapp group that we were added to. Family 1 and Family 2 are the main people in the story.
Families 3 and 4 got dropped (not by us) pretty soon after our arrival in the group. Family 2 set up a new whatsapp group just for families 1, 2 and us. The reasons they were dropped seemed valid (e.g. Borrowing stuff and returning it trashed regularly, or being given stuff (hobby related) and selling it straight after for significant profit.) We invited Family 3 and 4 to a couple of BBQs at ours but their being part of the group fizzled out and we didn't know them well.
For the last 3 years a friendship has continued with us and families 1 and 2, with BBQs regularly and get togethers. The parents of the DH in family 1 also started coming to events at family 1's house, and family 2 became particularly close to them. Family 1 parents are in 70s but youngish at heart and lovely.
Last year me and DH realised that despite having had family 2 to ours many many times, they have never once invited us to anything. Only us or family 1 ever hosted (we thought), but we became aware that family 2 were hosting, but only inviting family 1 and parents of family 1. It was being done secretly. We then became aware from a slip up by the DH in family 2 that a secret whatsapp had been set up for families 1, 2 and parents of family 1. We still invited families 1 and 2 over, and we went to family 1's house many times and they even joined us for a couple of days on holiday last year (their idea). The DW in family 2 organised an event (hobby related) and invited a few ladies (all of whom I knew) but not me. I felt hurt but realised that for whatever reason she did not welcome us to the group, albeit she was happy to come to ours to be catered for if we asked.
We realised that if we wanted to be friends with family 1, we still needed to invite family 2 to our events, which we did.
Then last September family 2 moved 100 miles away. We were quite pleased really as there was no ignoring that they were never reciprocating, and it was getting irritating.
After they were gone we suggested a few outings to family 1, but all were declined. I think they had valid reasons. Then at Xmas I suggested they gone up with any date to suit them, and come to us for a meal. They seemed keen but never came up with a date, instead telling us that friends were visiting from the US and they wanted to keep themselves free for him.
We pretty much gave up. We knew DW of family 2 was not a fan of ours, but we'd thought that family 1 had become solid friends.
8 months passed since we last saw them and we realised we'd been dropped, like families 3 and 4. But no idea why. We were aware that families 1 and 2 and the parents of family 1 were meeting up, with family 2 staying with the parents but it was being done secretly.
Then last Sunday family 1 posted pics of them all in the pub. So I did something silly that I regret. I posted a meme on Facebook saying "At some point you have to forget those people who have forgotten you." I hate these PA things usually but I decided it mentally drew a line for me. Me and DH (who completely agrees we've been dropped and that family 2 never wanted us) left the whatsapp group that hadn't actually been used since last year anyway.
Next morning I get a very shirty message from DW of family 1. She said she had no idea I felt that way, I shouldn't judge people, she's very busy and her friends accept that, and she feels sick. I replied explaining why we felt that way. I explained that we really liked all of them, but in 3 years had not had a single invite from family 2, and had been actively left out of anything arranged by family 2. I said we felt uncomfortable and acknowledged they had a strong friendship with family 2 so hadn't said anything and carried on including everyone. However, when our last few invites to them (family 1) were declined, we left it, but had realised we were forgotten, having gone from at least 2 get togethers a month to nothing in 8 months. I reiterated that they meant a lot to us.
The reply I got was so upsetting. She said:
"Oh my god Mummy. Get your bloody head out of your arse. Think this over!"
WIBU to try to explain? I'm so cross with myself for bothering. I can see this is what they do, dropping people, but she seems to be denying that we were dropped I think. Seemingly suggesting that friends ought to take whatever crumbs they offer. I always knew that the message from me meant no return, not least as family 1 DW would never entertain the idea that family 2 DW had excluded us. But 3 years, multiple events hosted by us, not a single one back, I surely didn't imagine it?? And 8 months of no contact surely isn't normal when you were seeing people all the time??
What did I do? I feel shocked and keep replaying it.
I do appreciate that people can choose to be friends with whoever they want, and that often we won't be included in everything. But we haven't been included in a single thing for 8 months.
Please don't flame me for the meme. I realise I was BU on that.
I think the right thing to do is not reply now, no one will ever see it from our point of view. I reality checked with DH before posting anything as he's the most level headed person I know and he can't understand the reaction about my arse and head either.
Please anyone tell me where I went wrong (other than the meme)

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AtrociousCircumstance · 30/05/2017 19:41

They sound an absolute nightmare. I'm glad you confronted them!

It's takes ages to properly get to know people and discover who they are. Years. You've found out now and can move on.

I know it feels shit though Flowers

FakePlasticTeaLeaves · 30/05/2017 19:41

Tell her you can't get your head in your arse as unlike her, you have a backbone.

elevenclips · 30/05/2017 19:42

They dumped 3&4 now they dumped you.

Looks like you didn't destroy the friendship, you were already dumped.

They've done you a favour. Forget them!

Whatsername17 · 30/05/2017 19:43

I'd have a social media purge and start fresh. If you need to, send one last message saying that you wish them well and then leave it. They don't sound worth the hassle.

terrylene · 30/05/2017 19:43

Some people are weird. Suddenly you are their bestie, then they move on to someone else. I don't think you were wrong - just called them up on it.

Best to stick to positive crap and kittens on Facebook, though - that is what is for Wink

terrylene · 30/05/2017 19:44

PS - like Margot's reply Grin

RB68 · 30/05/2017 19:46

People do this shit all the time who are not really friends - just acquaintances that are getting something out of the relationship at the time. I find very few people now know how to be a good friend which is sad really.

honeyroar · 30/05/2017 19:47

Tell her to go back to ignoring you, after that outburst you're not bothered. Then block.

Seriously though, I'm like you, I've put far too much effort over the years into people who don't do it back and I wonder why I bother so long and get upset, they're clearly not worth it,

Rainbunny · 30/05/2017 19:47

Don't be too harsh on yourself OP, we all do things we shouldn't when our feelings are hurt. Also, even if it would have been better to take the high road I think it's good thing that this "friend" now knows that they have hurt your feelings. The problem with taking the high road is that the person who treats you poorly gets to swan off, never having to admit to themselves that they've been a shitty person.

Waltermittythesequel · 30/05/2017 19:47

It's all very childish, isn't it?

The thing is, you sat back and happily watched it with Family 3 and 4, so it's not like they didn't have form!

BadToTheBone · 30/05/2017 19:49

Family 1 and family 2 are friends, they pick up and drop other families along the way. They sound vile, you're better off without them.

JanetStWalker · 30/05/2017 19:50

Bloody hell, reminds me why I prefer to be a loner!

arethereanyleftatall · 30/05/2017 19:51

People change, friendship groups change, I wouldn't get het up about it.

They didn't set up a 'secret' whatsapp group though. They're entitled to have a whatsapp group with whichever friends they choose.

In my family life, we have different groups we socialise with for different reasons. We have our 'foodie' group for example; 3 families. We don't invite a 4th family, who are also in this group always, because they're not interested in food. I guess they could feel they've been 'dropped' but that isn't so.

PansyGiraffe · 30/05/2017 19:53

Don't reply. Not only is it far more mature (if you've "drawn a line under it", why are you still replying?) but it will annoy her more - think of her wondering if you'll reply and checking her phone and generally giving you more heads pace than she has for a long while...

AnotheBloodyChinHair · 30/05/2017 19:53

No one else dying to know what the hobby is?

mydietstartsmonday · 30/05/2017 19:53

You got back and say "lol you are absolutely right I am over thinking it. Over and out xx"
Fuck it I love a bit of PA behavior.

terrylene · 30/05/2017 19:54

It's all very childish, isn't it? It is very much the Y3 playground in essence.

PurpleMinionMummy · 30/05/2017 19:54

The meme wasn't the best idea but I agree with MrsHathaway. She obviously knows and feels guilty, otherwise she wouldn't have sent a shirty message the next day.

FizzyGreenWater · 30/05/2017 19:55

Well done OP!

Yup, maybe the meme wasn't a great idea but really, who cares? Don't lose any sleep over them. Her response was nasty, too. You're definitely better off out of it.

Have to say I wouldn't be able to leave her with the last word, either. I'd probably reply with something like

'Oh, I've thought it over all right. Not nice being finally called out on what people really think of you, is it?' And finish with a winky face and then BLOCK (so she isn't able to block you). Nice little allusion there to the possibility that her behaviour is being gossiped about. That'll unsettle her.

Meanies!

noova61 · 30/05/2017 19:55

Same thing happened to us a few years back...been friends for almost 20yrs, god parents to each others kids, family outings, parties...etc...etc....new neighbours moved in next door to friends and they all became really close, new neighbour (female) couldnt believe we had been friends for such a long time and it was so strong...she slowly but surely elbowed her way in between my friend and I, as did her hubby...invites stopped, they couldnt make it to ours anymore, txts no longer answered...eventually they moved away for about 7yrs, friend got back in touch and we met up with them , it didnt work out for them so thy moved back to our area...we longer hear anything from them. I sent her a message saying that my hubby was very poorly(stroke) and I just wanted to let her know...her reply, So sorry to hear about hubby, our life is fantastic, its been amazing and we are wealthier than we ever imagined we could be. Hope your life is good, but I doubt its as good as ours. To say I was devastated is an understatement...I never told my hubby what she said...they werent friends, just as yours werent friends. Our life probably isnt as good as theirs as far as money goes, but I know Im happier than she ever will be, after everything her hubby did to her, but she wont leave him due the money aspect.
You dont need these people in your life, just look ahead and new ones will come along.

MistySparrow · 30/05/2017 19:55

They sound horrible and I feel sorry for families 3 and 4. I would stay well away and not reply.

Msqueen33 · 30/05/2017 19:58

@noova61 what arseholes! How's your dh now?

Funny how she must have known that Facebook meme was aimed at her! She must know she's been awful. I'd have to have the last text from her and wouldn't bother replying. They don't sound like great people.

TheCraicDealer · 30/05/2017 19:58

"If i had my head up my arse I'd hardly have i noticied the disparity. I'm off to spend time with mates who don't see social groups as people to divide and conquer. Cheerio babes."

Then block before they reply, like to complete the immature ruse!

And it's not the fact that they spent time with the other families, but the secrecy surrounding the meetups and convos. If they didn't think that was "off" they wouldn't have gone to any effort to hide the fact that they were spending time together.

StarryCorpulentCunt · 30/05/2017 20:08

Ah tell em to go boil their heads.

stuntcamel · 30/05/2017 20:08

Most people, reading a meme like that on someone's FB page would think "oh dear, she''s a bit peed off, I wonder who's upset OP?". DW of Family 1 assumed that it was a barb aimed at her. Therefore she must know why you posted it.

I'd jettison the whole ruddy lot of them and find some nice people to be friends with.

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