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Nasty message from friend

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mummymummums · 30/05/2017 19:19

Some background. About 4 years ago we came into an established friendship group of 4 families, through a shared hobby. There was a 4 family whatsapp group that we were added to. Family 1 and Family 2 are the main people in the story.
Families 3 and 4 got dropped (not by us) pretty soon after our arrival in the group. Family 2 set up a new whatsapp group just for families 1, 2 and us. The reasons they were dropped seemed valid (e.g. Borrowing stuff and returning it trashed regularly, or being given stuff (hobby related) and selling it straight after for significant profit.) We invited Family 3 and 4 to a couple of BBQs at ours but their being part of the group fizzled out and we didn't know them well.
For the last 3 years a friendship has continued with us and families 1 and 2, with BBQs regularly and get togethers. The parents of the DH in family 1 also started coming to events at family 1's house, and family 2 became particularly close to them. Family 1 parents are in 70s but youngish at heart and lovely.
Last year me and DH realised that despite having had family 2 to ours many many times, they have never once invited us to anything. Only us or family 1 ever hosted (we thought), but we became aware that family 2 were hosting, but only inviting family 1 and parents of family 1. It was being done secretly. We then became aware from a slip up by the DH in family 2 that a secret whatsapp had been set up for families 1, 2 and parents of family 1. We still invited families 1 and 2 over, and we went to family 1's house many times and they even joined us for a couple of days on holiday last year (their idea). The DW in family 2 organised an event (hobby related) and invited a few ladies (all of whom I knew) but not me. I felt hurt but realised that for whatever reason she did not welcome us to the group, albeit she was happy to come to ours to be catered for if we asked.
We realised that if we wanted to be friends with family 1, we still needed to invite family 2 to our events, which we did.
Then last September family 2 moved 100 miles away. We were quite pleased really as there was no ignoring that they were never reciprocating, and it was getting irritating.
After they were gone we suggested a few outings to family 1, but all were declined. I think they had valid reasons. Then at Xmas I suggested they gone up with any date to suit them, and come to us for a meal. They seemed keen but never came up with a date, instead telling us that friends were visiting from the US and they wanted to keep themselves free for him.
We pretty much gave up. We knew DW of family 2 was not a fan of ours, but we'd thought that family 1 had become solid friends.
8 months passed since we last saw them and we realised we'd been dropped, like families 3 and 4. But no idea why. We were aware that families 1 and 2 and the parents of family 1 were meeting up, with family 2 staying with the parents but it was being done secretly.
Then last Sunday family 1 posted pics of them all in the pub. So I did something silly that I regret. I posted a meme on Facebook saying "At some point you have to forget those people who have forgotten you." I hate these PA things usually but I decided it mentally drew a line for me. Me and DH (who completely agrees we've been dropped and that family 2 never wanted us) left the whatsapp group that hadn't actually been used since last year anyway.
Next morning I get a very shirty message from DW of family 1. She said she had no idea I felt that way, I shouldn't judge people, she's very busy and her friends accept that, and she feels sick. I replied explaining why we felt that way. I explained that we really liked all of them, but in 3 years had not had a single invite from family 2, and had been actively left out of anything arranged by family 2. I said we felt uncomfortable and acknowledged they had a strong friendship with family 2 so hadn't said anything and carried on including everyone. However, when our last few invites to them (family 1) were declined, we left it, but had realised we were forgotten, having gone from at least 2 get togethers a month to nothing in 8 months. I reiterated that they meant a lot to us.
The reply I got was so upsetting. She said:
"Oh my god Mummy. Get your bloody head out of your arse. Think this over!"
WIBU to try to explain? I'm so cross with myself for bothering. I can see this is what they do, dropping people, but she seems to be denying that we were dropped I think. Seemingly suggesting that friends ought to take whatever crumbs they offer. I always knew that the message from me meant no return, not least as family 1 DW would never entertain the idea that family 2 DW had excluded us. But 3 years, multiple events hosted by us, not a single one back, I surely didn't imagine it?? And 8 months of no contact surely isn't normal when you were seeing people all the time??
What did I do? I feel shocked and keep replaying it.
I do appreciate that people can choose to be friends with whoever they want, and that often we won't be included in everything. But we haven't been included in a single thing for 8 months.
Please don't flame me for the meme. I realise I was BU on that.
I think the right thing to do is not reply now, no one will ever see it from our point of view. I reality checked with DH before posting anything as he's the most level headed person I know and he can't understand the reaction about my arse and head either.
Please anyone tell me where I went wrong (other than the meme)

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MistySparrow · 01/06/2017 20:20

Let it go [OP] they are cnuts which ever way you look at it. If you can't let it go, get some counselling and see why not.

BerylStreep · 01/06/2017 23:35

DW1 telling you you have nothing to feel foolish about is horribly patronising.

Honestly, just back away from them. Concentrate on your Dad and just don't bother with them again.

38cody · 02/06/2017 00:16

Sounds as though fam2 were jealous of your relationship with fam1 and poisoned it - maybe they did the same with fam's 3&4.
Delete them from all your social media so you're not driven mad following them and move on.

Blueemeraldagain · 02/06/2017 00:30

"Oh my god Mummy. Get your bloody head out of your arse. Think this over!"

I read this as "wake up and smell the roses/read between the lines!" I think she wants to meet up to tell you something. Possibly flirtation/inappropriate/misconstrued advances from your DH? I could be/am probably way off but that's how I would interpret the message.

emmyrose2000 · 02/06/2017 00:39

Why are you so desperate to want the "friendship" of people who have treated you badly and with such disdain?

princesscasino · 02/06/2017 01:11

You sound lovely and they quite frankly sound rather rubbish - look at this way, you may have got on superficially together but in regards to how you treat other people you are very different kinds of people I think. The reason you acted the way you did was because the friendship meant something real to you.

She's been quite unpleasant about it. After all you didn't name names online .Like most others on this post I think they acted badly and she just didn't like that feeling of being critically judged (correctly as it turns out) and her pride was hurt.
I'm sure they liked you and your DH but for whatever reason they preferred the other family and TBH they probably all deserve each other - hope this helps.

mummymummums · 02/06/2017 22:45

Thanks all, yes I'm sure family 1 do prefer family 2, which is fine - no problem with that. It's just we used to be part the group. I had put the whole thing to bed - the messages came as a surprise. I'm not desperate to be friends - I just don't want to do the wrong thing and now isn't a good time for me to make decisions.
Blueemerald - no it's nothing to do with my DH. I wouldn't have the slightest suspicion and he's fine with me meeting her (if I do) which he'd be discouraging if he wanted to hide something). I actually think she meant that (as I now know from Facebook) the meet up Sunday was a Birthday celebration of family 1's mother. Which I wouldn't expect to be invited to. I think she's making the point their world doesn't revolve round us. Which after 8 months of no contact we'd got the message anyway!

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NoodleNinja · 04/06/2017 01:33

Looks like DW1 panicked that she was being outed as someone who drops friends like hot turds so is doing damage limitation and will still drop you from events even if you do get back on good terms with her. She's trying to keep you sweet.

delilah245 · 04/06/2017 02:08

No, she sounds like a crappy friend.

But then again I have always seen it that nobody is too busy for you that actually wants to see you... especially if you've been trying to get together. It's one thing if a month or so passes that you don't get together, but not 8 when you live in the same town. I have friends that we will go months without seeing eachother, BUT when one of us asks to do dinner/get together, even if we can't at that date we'll plan a date (within the next couple weeks) for when we can!!.. it's quite simple. Friends that act like that I usually stop initiating get together/phone calls with all together. If they're just a bit flakey then I leave it to them to get in touch. I don't have time for that and neither should you.

DWs response to you was pretty insensitive and I think it's pretty clear you shouldn't want to be friends with someone who talks to you that way.

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/06/2017 05:52

If they really were your friends, they'd be interested in you when you are going through hard times. Such as now with your dad. If dw1 doesn't bother to contact you and ask after your dad in the next few weeks, you really have your answer.

Totallybonkersmum · 10/06/2017 02:44

I'd block them all with no more messages that could be taken, and will most certainly will, be taken out of context. Ignore them, look after your dad and definitely block them on everything including phoning you.
Go out and make some real friends. Avoid cliquey groups in future. Form different types of friendships that don't overlap. Then if one set go, then you have others still.

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