To feel the faint stirrings of hope of a Labour victory?

[KentMum2008]

Just that really? We all thought it was a done deal, T May was going to win by a landslide and we'd be crippled by another 5 years of Tory rule.

Fast forward a few weeks and a Labour victory doesn't seem like such a long shot.

AIBU to feel optimistic that Labour genuinely have a fighting chance? At the very, very least it might result in no overall majority, but the ultimate dream of a Labour govt, run by a true socialist isn't as impossible as previously though.

JC4PM!

I have just posted this on another thread. I live in a safe Labour seat, there is not a single poster up, and we have not had a single leaflet from any party.
I would not be surprised if my MP loses her seat.

People I know who haven't voted before are voting for JC. Tories are voting for JC. Most of my friends in their late 20s/early 30s are voting JC. It's the first time I've been interested in British politics as opposed to American because JC isn't just another oily, Oxbridge person who looks like a pork sausage in a suit (skirt or otherwise) and patronisingly spouts platitudes to placate the wannabe upper classes. So...no yanbu.

I'll just leave this here...

I'm yet to meet a soul who will vote for JC, thank gd. He's doing nothing round here and most people are pretty happy with TM

He has no links to the IRA redbus.

helpimitchy Corbyn came over as competent and thoughtful, May as flustered.

The thought of a Labour victory is quite frankly terrifying. This country needs a government not pie in the sky hot air leftie theories.

If we get young people to the polls it would be a victory for labour.

If we could vote online, labour would win.

I think the more press coverage JC gets, the better. He comes across as 'normal'. TM comes across as wishy washy and just horrible. No wonder she won't debate Corbyn. He'd wipe the floor with her.

Yes Leanback! Why are people so blind to the horror she has unleashed?

A clearer version of Leanback's post:
Here's a thought experiment: Take all the time you need. (And No, I'm not telling you How to vote, just to Think, then vote).
Say Jeremy Corbyn had been the Home Secretary for six years, during which time he slashed some 20,000 police jobs taking us back to 1970s levels of per capita policing.
Let's say he also slashed the UK Border Agency budget so that over a million people per month were coming and going through UK airports without being properly checked.
Let's say by virtue of an extremely self-serving EU referendum non-campaign he managed to get into 10 Downing Street, where he kept up his agenda of cutting the UK security services and border agency.
Then there's a home-grown terrorist attack by a known Islamist fanatic in a city where Corbyn had cut the police budget by £157 million.
Let's say Jeremy Corbyn "lost" files on an internal pedophile ring.
Let's say he wanted to take the homes from the elderly.
Let's say he cut 30% of your disabled benefit.
Let's say he signed an arms deal with the (ISIS-funding) Saudis worth millions.
Let's say he wanted to take away your child's free school meal.
Let's say he forced NHS staff to use food banks.
Let's say he made so many cuts to the NHS that people are suffering waiting for ambulances and A&E doctors.
Let's say he went against doctors, nurses, teachers, fire fighters, the armed forces...
Let's say he took away funding for University for upcoming doctors and nurses.
Let's say after all these cuts there's still a deficit and he'd missed every target he'd set himself for reducing it.
What would you have to say about Jeremy Corbyn under these circumstances?
And why you not saying those things about Theresa May and the Tories right now?

Dawndonnaagain Mon 29-May-17 23:27:20
He has no links to the IRA redbus.

Oh come on - whichever party you vote for you cannot erase history - he absolute did have links with the IRA!

Yes, I do think he came across much better tonight when questioned - food for thought

Do none of the Tories on here have Twitter? Because if you do, you might want to log on and see how the Twittersphere regarded May and Corbyn's performances tonight (hint: you probably won't like it).

I'm going to vote Labour (would never vote Tory even if you paid me), and whilst things don't look so dire now as they did a while back, I am doing expectation management and assuming we will not win. Regardless of who wins though the continual fight for greater social justice goes on.

Also if there is another Tory government, I can guarantee that we'll see riots again at some point during, once Brexit starts really biting.

Dawn I think I love you

Cheers dawn

Yes I think Labour are going to win.

New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

May has been very clear that she will change boundaries and voting requirements (having to produce a passport to vote etc) to ensure that no other party gets a look in

To put it more accurately, she will implement the new boundaries proposed by the independent Boundaries Commission which will give equal sized constituencies, removing the current inbuilt bias to Labour due to the number of small constituencies in Labour-leaning areas. She will also introduce a requirement to produce some form of ID when voting as recommended by the independent Electoral Commission in its review of electoral fraud in 2014, the measure being designed to prevent personation (i.e. someone pretending to be someone else and casting the other person's vote). Note that voters in Northern Ireland already have to produce photographic ID when voting. There is little evidence that it has led to any difficulties for voters in Northern Ireland. The Electoral Commission wants this scheme extended throughout the UK, including the provision of Electoral Identity Cards which are provided to voters who do not have any of the other acceptable forms of photo ID.

Neither of these measures will ensure that no other party gets a look in. In my view they are both sensible measures to ensure the fairness of our electoral system.

I'm not keen on Teresa May or Jeremy Corbyn. Can't we have somebody sensible. I don't agree with policing and border control cuts or grammar schools. But Jeremy Corbyn simply can't be PM. Even Labour people realise this.

erm, no they don't vivienne, he was elected by the voters twice, the second time with a larger majority.

Labour party members actually believe he can vivienne. Hence we voted, TWICE, and he won by an absolute landslide.

Maybe people want s change?

Want a change

Well let's hope so. I for one would like to keep the NHS, and not see education and public services take even more cuts, as well as the disabled. (And yet the Tories keep borrowing heavily and their beloved deficit keeps growing - does anyone know where the hell all that money has been going?)

Tories will fix the election like they did the last one, they literally get away with murder

My fear is the major issue is lack of voters turning out again. Seriously, the referendum and last few elections angered me as a labour/ remain/ av voter because when it came down to numbers not enough people showed up. Then after a lot of people complained- the reality is if people don't turn up the Torys will get in because Tory voters turn up as do any voters with a right of centre mindset in my opinion. Hate motivates.

"Soldiers when in desperate straits lose the sense of fear. If there is no place of refuge, they will stand firm."

Don't think for a minute we are winning OP. The likely outcome is that in 5 years time the education and health systems will not exist in the sense we know them now.