Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To hate spending time with my dcs?

201 replies

Backtohospitalagain · 28/05/2017 19:16

I know I'm completely unreasonable and awful and a shitty mum. I hope it's just a phase but I don't know.

I work and see them for about 2 hours in the morning and 3 hours before bed. Then all weekend. I can just about bear it during the week but weekends just drag and this weekend has been awful to be honest.

They are good children (1.5 and 3) but constantly hard work, I can't sit down for a second it seems. Another long day with them tomorrow.

I'm going to drink a bottle of wine to myself tonight as I just need to escape. Their dad (my DP) is here so they're safe even if I'm pissed.

I'm tired and aching and really fucking fed up.

OP posts:
Helper670 · 29/05/2017 07:53

OP - I feel for you. Those years were hell on wheels. Maybe your dp could step up a bit more because if you literally never have a second then he's not doing enough. Sorry, he may be a great dad but he's not being great husband. I remember the weekends being a relief because at least I had some help then.

There's nothing wrong with how you are feeling, your life sounds relentless. Is there any chance a grandparent could take the children for a night and you could go away? That could make all the difference for you and your dh, just a chance to be a couple again not just mum and dad? Doesn't have to even be far away, just somewhere that's not home, where no-one need you and where you don't have to cook any food or think about any meals.

witsender · 29/05/2017 08:35

My son was born when my daughter was 21 months old, we lived away from family and were broke in a house needing lots of work. I had a massive PPH that it took me months and months to feel better from, and DH went back to work on day 4. That first year or so were very dark for me, I completely understand what you are saying. Having 'something' planned for each day, accepting that some days were just going to be mooching around the house, and embracing the car as a nap giver helps. When it was really hot I would sometimes take them to the local MacDonalds which had air con and a soft play park attached.

Now they are 5 and nearly 7 and hard in different ways...they are so much better at arguing! 😂 We home ed so they are always around as well. But they are awesome in so many ways. #3 is due in October so this time in about 18 months I will probably be making my own post. 😬

tinypop4 · 29/05/2017 08:35

I I haven't had time to rtft but I do understand op. My dc are 4.5 and 22 months- I am only confident that I will enjoy spending time with ds (younger one) because my Dd became a lot of fun and much easier at 3.5ish. She is now a delight and I love spending time with her but I find ds more difficult to enjoy. I love him exactly the same amount but toddlers and babies are relentless and lots of people find them hard. Hang on in there - i would bet you'll start to enjoy your older one a lot more soon.

Don't feel bad, you love them and look after them so you are doing great

Lelloteddy · 29/05/2017 10:04

OP is your partner a SAHD?

SpecialStains · 29/05/2017 10:50

Hey, sorry you're finding it tough. Mine is still a baby, but parenting is sometimes dull and tiring.

However, since baby was born I'm basically tee total, for no reason other than I'm always sleep deprived and even a small glass of wine makes that feeling so much worse. My recommendation is ditch the booze and take an hour tomorrow to do some exercise. As I'm on mat leave and still breastfeeding, I'm with my baby constantly but everyone that knows me knows that Saturday mornings 9-10 is my parkrun time. I do exercise, I'm around other adults and I get an hour completely away from baby. If I have to miss my weekly parkrun, my mood suffers for it in the week. Obviously that only works if you have someone to leave the kids with!

Anyway Flowers for you, hang on in there.

MaQueen · 29/05/2017 11:13

Looking back, I spent a lot of time in assorted play barns, soft play centres etc. None were especially naice, but at least it meant our DDs would leave me alone to finish a hot cup of coffee and read a few chapters in peace...before having to haul one of them out the ball pool, or take one to the loo.

It really helped, and though expensive was worth every penny.

From being newborn they were always bathed every night, and as they became toddlers I used to drag out bath time, and keep them in the bath for ages - because they enjoyed it, they were coralled in a small space, I could sit down next to the bath and flick through a magazine and have a cup of tea.

Sometimes, they would play in the bath so long I would need to add more hot water...

But, to add again it really does get infinitely better and easier.From being about 4/5, ours would wake up, trundle into the playroom, switch on the TV and occupy themselves for an hour or so, which meant DH and I could sleep in until 7.30am Shock I would leave some biscuits and two cups of juice in there, for them to snack on, too - which stopped them demanding breakfast at 6am.

From them being 7/8 it just got hugely easier again. Much more self sufficient, showered themselves, washed themselves, dressed themselves, tidy their bedrooms themselves, made their own beds.

Now, in their early teens I genuinely enjoy their company, though they're usually closeted away in their bedrooms much of the time, and need coaxing out with bribes.

waitforitfdear · 29/05/2017 11:46

Small kids are a relentless pain in the arse. It's perfectly ok to think and feel this because they are.

Gets better as thry get older.

Backtohospitalagain · 29/05/2017 11:47

I'll take a look at the hurrah for gin page, and am considering going to the doctor about my low moods and anxiety. I'd love not to feel this way.

I had a long lie in this morning and didn't get down to the kids until gone 10am. It has put me in a much better mood to be honest, long shower, put makeup on. Etc. Now youngest is napping and eldest out at the shops with dad so more time to myself. I spoke to DP about how I was feeling so he's giving me some time out, he's very understanding.

I do want to enjoy time more with the kids. They deserve that. I look at them and my heart feels like it will burst with love and pride, but I just find time with them so difficult. One on one it's not too bad, it's when they're both together that I find hardest. Maybe I need parenting classes. Has anyone tried them?

OP posts:
waitforitfdear · 29/05/2017 11:48

And then the grandchildren visit Shock

waitforitfdear · 29/05/2017 11:50

I don't think you need parenting classes as how you feel is completely normal. Defiantly structure time to yourself to recharge and don't be so hard on yourself.

FairlyConstantNameChanger · 29/05/2017 11:53

I'm starting some parenting classes in a couple of weeks (AS me if you like, I had a short thread about them). Can't wait tbh.

christmaswreaths · 29/05/2017 17:24

I also think working full time with young children and no family help.is relentless and hugely exhausting. I have been there myself, looking with envy at grandma's taking kids to the park/school/farm/football whist mum and dad nip out to the cinema or shopping whilst my Dh and I had to rush around always with all children in toe at all times.

Could you pay for a babysitter so you can have some nights out or even a couple of hours with Dh child free? It does make a big difference having a regular break. Hugs.

Xmasbaby11 · 29/05/2017 17:30

Oh mine are 3 and 5 and I am still waiting for it to get easier / more fun! It is getting better, but they can be so exhausting and although they play together, need monitoring when they are squabbly. It's really hit and miss as to whether we enjoy time with them, even family days out. There always seems to be a drama - a tantrum, or one of them hurts themselves, or they fall out!

Small children just want your attention all the time. I have been constantly trying to teach them to play independently but they still seem to want something a lot of the time. The older one wants to talk to me all the time and if she runs out of things to say, she just repeats herself.

The main thing for me is getting enough rest and breaks. When I am not tired, I have enough patience to be tolerant and not get irritated with them so much. I feel like I've tried everything and this is the only thing that helps!

Strokethefurrywall · 29/05/2017 17:51

My boys are the same age as Xmasbaby11 - they get on well about 70% of the time and they have a good relationship, but DS2 has just entered the threenager phase. Lots of crying for no apparent reason - this morning he followed me into the bathroom to help me do my make up, emptied my bag over the floor and then threw a wobbly when I took the nail scissors away from him.

I have a helper for my kids who does all the cleaning/tidying/laundry/school runs etc, get plenty of days/nights out, time to myself and I live 5 minutes from school and my office, and I STILL find it relentless and exhausting.

I referred to my DS1 as a "total dickbag" the other day. I don't feel guilty. We're not superhuman!

You're right in the thick of it with a 3 and 1 year old. I'm just starting to feel our world expanding again so I can start to talk to friends without having to stop in the middle of a sentence to stop one child jumping off a balcony or what not. I reckon by 5 & 7 things will feel far less fraught, and having them both in the same school with the same routine should help.

Failing that, there's always more wine...

kazzakon · 29/05/2017 18:01

What your feeling is normal- don't feel hard on yourself. It gets easier.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 29/05/2017 18:06

Go to your GP and ask for iron b12 thyroid test.

ipswichwitch · 29/05/2017 18:15

I'll echo what so many others have said, and say this is normal. I'm glad you feel better in yourself for having a lie in, and that your DH is being understanding.

You sound like a perfectly lovely mum. This is a difficult age. We've done a bit of divide and conquer with our two. I'll take one shopping while DH does something with the other, then swap. Sometimes it's just nice spending a bit of one to one time with each child. Means I can really focus on them (without having to stop little brother trying to kill himself, or stop big brother continuously talking so I can hear what little northern is trying to say).

I have an agreement with DH, so we take it in turns to have a lie in on a weekend. It's never massively late, but an extra couple of hours in bed (our DC wake at 6 Hmm) makes all the difference.

Chattycat78 · 29/05/2017 18:21

Hearing this. I have an almost 1 year old and a 2.5 year old. Me and dh are both knackered all the time and get very little time to ourselves. Fingers crossed somehow it gets easier....!!!?

Katherine2626 · 29/05/2017 18:30

It does get easier when they can get themselves a drink , won't fall downstairs if left alone, etc. etc. Nobody tells you that for a lot of the time it's exhausting and boring, however much you love them. Trying to be grateful that I have children and others struggle to become pregnant and remain childless never does help....however, one really true thing is that childhood consists of long days and short years. It's all gone before you realise !

Alwaysinahurrynow · 29/05/2017 18:48

Thank heavens for mumsnet. I was in tears this morning after a 5:10 start with the baby and two pre-schoolers who just wanted to fight each other. Threads like this make me realise I'm not on my own in finding it so very hard to be patient and calm all the time.

Kizzyma · 29/05/2017 19:36

Please don't feel bad about yourself . Mine are teens now and I am desperate for them to spend time with me . It will pass very soon I promise. It simply is bloody hard work especially when you are working as well

JudasHisCarrot · 29/05/2017 19:41

I don't think you need parenting classes either - you just need time for yourself. No work, no kids. I could have written your post as my kids are the same age. I haven't had a day to myself in (literally) years. But today, dh sent me off. I had from 9am to 5pm all to myself, with no pressure to come home. I wandered about in town, had coffees and lunch, read my book and wrote a few cards that I needed to. It was absolute bliss and I needed it so much. Definitely try and do something like that for yourself. And stop beating yourself up! EVERYONE needs a break sometimes.

pinkletoes · 29/05/2017 20:16

Really interesting thread with some good advice!

Mine are now 5 & 2 and although I still find it hard it was a lot harder 1-2yrs ago. So yes it gets (a bit) easier!

My tips would be:

Get out of the house at least once a day
Can they ride a scooter (maybe not youngest but eldest?) go out to park on those / let youngest roam
Allow TV when you're about to lose your shit / need five mins / want to sit and drink a cup of tea. I used to do one 'block' of TV for eldest but now I do one short programme a few times a day (probs 45mins total) on weekend /holidays and find it Easier

  • show them Cosmic Yoga on YouTube
  • dance videos on you tube (my eldest loves this on a rainy day!)
  • dancing competitions (I sometimes participate) no mess In this!
  • buy a trampoline if you have a garden
  • list of games and activities (I forget stuff all the time)
  • if you have a car and it's a rainy day trip to car wash and drive through macdonalds if desperate
  • cinema
  • put them In the bath / shower and allow them to 'clean' mine spend up to an hour doing this and I'm just making a 'chemistry' set for the bath for my eldest with various bottles / food coloured waters so I think it will increase.
  • audio books for eldest

It does get easier but I totally feel your pain. I too find it often mind numming, very stressful and just not enjoyable. I have a supportive partner, get a bit of time 'off' and go to work but I just think it's a hard stage. One other thing you could try is headspace if you haven't already? I've stopped now (as don't feel I need it) but both DH and I did this every day when we were totally knackered / stressed. It's only 10 mins but helps. Do it when they go to bed or when youngest naps and let your eldest watch TV. Good luck!

Speakeazi · 29/05/2017 20:33

So sorry this is so hard for you right now. You are not a shitty mum, you are careful to make sure the children are safe when you drink- but needing to drink a bottle of wine to yourself might indicate you need a little more than just the great advice others have given you. I leave it to you to judge if a chat to a non judgemental impartial person such as practice nurse, GP, a colleague might help you to move forward on this. Take care

Jedimum1 · 29/05/2017 20:39

I have a 2yo and a 4yo. I have them on my own a couple of days a week and I absolutely dread it! Mind you, I love them to bits but I'm generally too tired, have a long list of pending things to do and haven't had time for myself for months. When I'm rested, had meals at right times and had a bit of pampering, I can deal with everything so much better! We haven't got any family support and it's quite difficult at times when they are this age because you have to be constantly on top of them. My tips:

  • make turns for laying ins, pampering or time away. My DH gets Saturday morning and I get Sunday morning. I usually have a lay-in but sometimes I use my time to pamper or dye my hair, go to the hairdresser, anything.
  • find a soft play area nearby with a toddler enclosure. You might get some time to sit back and watch them play without constant supervision. At 18 months, your youngest is the right age for the small slide, mine couldn't stop going and he was so tired at the end of the day that went to bed early.
  • I know it's very impopular, but sorry, I need it to have at least half an hour: get a kids tablet. I have a cheap kindle fire with some apps ("Friends" from Sago, is sweet and brilliant) and Netflix (kids setting). Or Cbeebies. I wish I didn't feel I had to use this, but it gives me some space, allows me to relax a bit and to be honest, kids nowadays use tablets and screens in school, so if you don't over do it, I don't see anything wrong with it. There are amazing apps for young kids to learn colours, shapes, etc.
  • get a sitter once a month and go out a couple of hours at least. Do something fun. Ask in your Nursery, some key workers do extra hours as sitters, or might be able to recommend something.
  • When your younger one sleeps, give your eldest something to play that s/he can only do whilst the other one sleeps. In this house is pens, play dough or watercolour. S/he will be looking forward to that me-time too and eventually will be a routine to look forward to. Listen to music, have a cup of tea or watch a series whilst s/he does this. I sometimes use my tablet and one earplug, if it's not suitable for her; one episode feels like I had a break and it's usually only 40 minutes. I do have a monitor that I take around with me to also keep an eye on the younger one.
  • Go to the park, one with an enclosure. Let them play and sit back.
  • Go to Costa / your choice of coffee shop. Get your favourite drink, juices or babyccinos for the kids, toast for them and take along some crayons and paper. I always have post-its or small square paper in the bag (from those blocks for notes), I got a few packs of small crayons for birthday party bags and I have lots left, so I take a few everywhere.
  • make a network of parents with similar aged children. Parents from nursery? Get together for picnics or park, you end up usually taking turns to look after kids and although conversations are always broken, it's nice to try!
  • get garden toys, slides, Wendy house, anything to encourage outdoor play between them. Try to get them to play together, more independently.

They grow up. Very quickly. I also think sometimes that it's a shame I'm so knackered all the time, because I'd love to enjoy them more. At the same time, I'm overworking myself with three part time jobs for another two years to be able to offer them a better house, school and more time with me down the line, so I hope everything normalises soon!

Swipe left for the next trending thread