to think it's finally time England deals with its Katy Hopkins problem?

[Fliptophead]

I know she feeds off publicity and the best thing really would be to ignore her until she shrivels and dies of fame starvation so I apologise for the thread but this is really too much now isn't it?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-bombing-katie-hopkins-final-solution-muslims-arena-terror-attack-phillip-schofield-a7750656.html

The British people's elected PM. If you're unaware of basic politics this is maybe not the conversation for you.

I think we should just leave this thread to the apologists.

The problem here is a substantial group of disenfranchised Muslim young men are being spoken too in a similar way and actually are doing something about it. However, that makes for a discussion that most people would rather shy away from.

Similarly, KH is a problem and her words encourage violence against minorities which is increasing all the time. That makes for a discussion that quite a few here would clearly rather shut down shy away from.

So to recap Theresa May is Pm and the Final Solution is a Holocaust reference.

Fox hunting won't come back, it's gone, the culture has shifted

But yet again people constantly criticising 'British' culture for not being good enough...we know that...we aren't perfect but our history is one of progress and change, we actively try to change these things because we are free to do that. Having laws bound by an ancient scripture (which imo is also bollocks) is never going to allow us progression, and the amendment to our slaughter of animals laws is a good example of that

Is that what we want? Isn't it actually ok to say in a non KH way that our culture has different values and these are the reasons why?

You hardly seem well informed.

we aren't perfect but our history is one of progress and change, we actively try to change these things because we are free to do that.

I think this^ says it all. British history isn't about progress and fucking change. I'm fascinated to read the history books you read.

OP clearly has massive agenda.

Tara cock!

I think we should just leave this thread to the apologists.

I agree. Katie apologists aren't going to shift. They'd rather get enraged and stop thinking.

Yes, my agenda is being anti holocaust. I'm such a dick.

Yes, you are flip. :)

Imagine being against people wanting to kill each other.

Yep. No discussion to be had here.
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Just on the point re. words and why they should be taken seriously. Especially in the context of final solutions.

Goering was a big old Nazi bigwig btw, in case anyone doesn't know that already.

And concentration camps were not "holocaust centres".

In fact, is Spicer on this thread?

"The problem here is a substantial group of disenfranchised Muslim young men are being spoken too in a similar way and actually are doing something about it. However, that makes for a discussion that most people would rather shy away from"

I don't shy away from it. Happy to talk.

Halal meat is relevant to this conversation as in areas with a relatively high numbers of Muslims: Tower Hamlets, Newham almost all food outlets including Nando's and KFC, council run school meal service only use halal meat. So the rights and wishes of muslims in this area trumps everyone else's and last time I look we weren't living in an Islamic state although if we're not careful we soon will be.

Unfortunately the U.K. Has bent backwards to accommodate this religious/political group because it threatens us with violence and is forevering wanting more of its agenda to be accommodated into our every day lives: Sharia law, polygamy, halal meat, child prostitution, covered women, misogyny, intolerance of homosexuality and when someone eventually shouts no this isn't on then they are labelled racist. The west really needs to wake up and realise that sprouting messages of love, peace, tolerance and lighting F candles at vigils isn't going to stop these f* terrorists

I hate her as much as i hate any preacher of hate. But at this moment my hate for her is overshadowed by my hate for the vile evil murderer who killed all those innocent people in Manchester.

But yet again people constantly criticising 'British' culture for not being good enough.

Not sure what it is about the dairy industry that makes it so British but if that's what you want to think...

Halal meat can be (and usually is) pre stunned.

*we aren't perfect but our history is one of progress and change, we actively try to change these things because we are free to do that.

I think this^ says it all. British history isn't about progress and fucking change. I'm fascinated to read the history books you read.*

In what area are we not making progress? I'd love to know

There is such a dramatic reaction to KH it is hard to take it seriously. On the one hand you all seem to recognise she is a gobshite, on the other are taking her words seriously. For the record, she is just a gobshite and she has no position of power, and she is allowed her free speech, much as most of us don't like it.

Erm as far as I know, the U.K. hasn't legalised polygamy, and child prostitution is hardly a Muslim thing

The west really needs to wake up and realise that sprouting messages of love, peace, tolerance and lighting F candles at vigils isn't going to stop these f* terrorists

So, "final solution" is the answer?

"Unfortunately the U.K. Has bent backwards to accommodate this religious/political group because it threatens us with violence and is forevering wanting more of its agenda to be accommodated into our every day lives: Sharia law, polygamy, halal meat, child prostitution, covered women, misogyny, intolerance of homosexuality and when someone eventually shouts no this isn't on then they are labelled racist"

Which of those things are now accommodated into your everyday life?

What do you think we ought to be doing?

Halal meat can be (and usually is) pre stunned

That sentence should read: All our meat is pre-stunned

See what I mean about erosion of our hard fought laws?