To be scared about the outcome of the election?

[brasty]

There have been so many attacks on disabled people, the NHS and public services. I am just scared that there will be even more after the election, if the Conservatives get in. It is seriously scary.

There is a Stagflationary recession looming, that is why an election has been called early.
The economic fallout will be still present in 2020, the Tories have bought an an extra two years till 2022 for the debt cycle to clear and win again in 2022.
Just pray Labour aren't mistakenly elected this year, if so then see Japan for an insight into our 20 year forthcoming recession.

Yes I have a good friend who is an economist and says our economy is not in good shape at all.
And I think national Governments have less influence over this than they pretend to the electorate.

I wrote more money should go to DLA. Odd that anyone wouldn't want that. lostsight - do you not think that is what most work toward, ensuring their tax is spent in the right place primarily DLA as hub priority. But if there is no money there as there is no financial stability the people who should have the biggest increases now simply won't.

You do realise DLA is in the process of being withdrawn from everyone don't you?

Financial stability from the party that gave us Brexit?

Ok then

I recently moved back to Scotland and feel like pulling up the drawbridge! The current Tories are so rightwing they would have been unelectable when I was growing up (1970s and 80s). Seriously considering going Nat, just to avoid the catastrophic impact on public services. And I am English! I have also lived in Scandinavia and much prefer their approach.

These are indeed scary times.

Hang on though, as they continue to punish the poor, aged, sick and disadvantaged, their awful ideology will be fully exposed.

We can do it!

user, do you mean that if Labour get in, they will mistakenly get blamed for the crisis that the Tories will have created?

Financial stability from the party that gave us Brexit?

Indeed.

There have been so many attacks on disabled people

Attacks? Attacks?

Get a grip. No-one is 'attacking' anyone. This kind of hysterical invective puts me right off listening to a person's argument. If you are out to change minds then you are going about it the wrong way.

I just want the NHS to be safe guarded.

Don't be voting labour then.

I am voting Tory in this election, as I personally believe people need to take more responsibility for themselves, not rely on the state constantly. Unfortunately to begin with the truly disabled people will be caught in the crossfire. There are too many people living beyond their means and expecting the government to save them. No more!

Education and the NHS will be fine, at the end of the day, everyone who needs care, gets care. Unless we hike NI contributions 2% then it's fucked regardless.

Brexit will also be well negotiated by TM, as JC is a bumbling buffoon. The more scary prospect is JC winning and playing some kind of 'take from the rich(who have earned their wealth) to give to the poor (who fucking haven't earned it)

Unfortunately to begin with the truly disabled people will be caught in the crossfire.

Let them eat cake.

I just want the NHS to be safe guarded.

Until there is a proper non political discussion about the NHS nothing will be safeguarded by any party.

Both parties have made big mistakes over the NHS.

As I have said previously there needs to be a discussion about the way forward where political allegences are left at the door. Unfortunately it won't happen because whenever there is a chance to political point score people take it.

Financial stability from the party that gave us Brexit?
I thought it was a referendum that gave us Brexit!

JC is not a bumbling buffoon. He is a far better public speaker than TM.

TM who says she can negotiate us the best deal possible to leave the EU, but refused a head to head live television debate with the leader of the opposition.

Sounds like someone is already shirking their public duty of answerability to the electorate.

TM doesn't need to have a televised debate as we all know she'd wipe the floor with JC!

My biggest fear is a 'landslide' win for the tories and that they will be able to stampede through unopposed because of our fucked up electoral system. The tories aren't popular because most people like them, it's because they won't vote for the fractured left. And the only way we will ever achieve a parliament where the tories aren't the biggest party is with either a New Labour style seismic wave which knocks out the SNP unlikely or electoral reform. Although as long as our system gives them 2/3 of MPs for less than half the vote I don't see that happening any time soon.

So my fear isn't so much what the tories will do (although I fundamentally disagree with most of their policies) but I am scared that this will just cement the tories for decades until we decide to join the rest of the world in democracy

Depression? No.
'Anxiety'? No.
Pathological demand avoidance? No. Fucking. Way.

Thank you so much, doctor, for popping in and clearing that up.

I'm with you brasty

Wtf is PDA not a disability?! It's a form of autism ffs!!

I'm looking forward to the election being over. Hopefully it will signal the end of Corbyn, the Labour Party can attempt restructure and revival but most importantly, it will mean that Momentum will stop clogging up MN with this type of post.

TM doesn't need to have a televised debate as we all know she'd wipe the floor with JC

Really? Have you seen PMQs? He looks like a reasonable, informed person trying to have a debate with a cartoon villain who cackles at him while repeating the word leadership over and over.

No wonder JC wants a debate.

Well with disability benefits, the important thing is we have the Tribunals Service. They aren;t going to disappear. there was talk of making people pay for Appeals, but don't think that will happen.

Appeals are more thorough and impartial than the DWP / Atos, so in theory this means that anyone with a severe conditions getting screwed over my Atos, should get that rectified.

So, biggest concern with disability IMO would be the prospect of us not having Appeals, rather than the government.

Drinkmilk Actually, as hard as it is for you to accept or understand, I do think that most people who vote Tory are doing so because they do like them, and not just because they can't bring themselves to vote for the fractured left. In case you've forgotten, the left lost the last GE under Ed Milliband and before most people even knew Jeremy Corbin's name. Labour were limping along then, a little on the lame side perhaps but hardly fractured. That all came afterwards.

It makes no difference. Under our current system, 'the majority' see Labour as unelectable at the moment, fractured or otherwise.

OP you've been reading too much MN where the majority of posts are very (extremist) left wing and imply that the conservatives are rich bastards who want to squash the poor, disabled and vulnerable. It's like a labour party political broadcast every day on here.

In reality, we already have a conservative government. They don't want to destroy the NHS. None of the parties do.

In your position, you just need to vote however you wish and not panic about it. It's not a situation that is under any of our control, we all use our vote how we wish and accept the outcome because there is no other option.

I've not decided whether to vote or if I do which party I will vote for. But the ranting on here makes me want to run a mile from Labour because what started out as a road to "fairness" had turned into fanaticism. I am against fanatics on either side of the political spectrum. I think they are unbalanced and hostile and I see a lot of that on here every day. We could solve problems better if people with opposing views worked together and compromised rather than screeching abuse at each other.