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Reasons to not vote Tory this GE

391 replies

Bluebeedee · 09/05/2017 13:24

  1. Bedroom tax
  2. Denying disability benefit to 165,000 people
  3. Scrapping housing benefit for 18-21 year olds
  4. Benefit cap
  5. Rise in uni tuition fees
  6. Junior doctors' contracts
  7. Scrapping nurses' bursaries
  8. Snoopers' charter
  9. Social care cuts
  10. Public sector pay freeze
10. NHS "10 year diet"

There are many many more!

Corbyn wants to invest in public services- education and health by taxing the rich more. Surely you'd have to be completely ignorant and selfish to not agree with this? 4 more years of the Tories will be the end of the NHS, we'd be fucking stupid to let this happen.

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makeourfuture · 09/05/2017 16:11

46 - holding Trump's hand.

makeourfuture · 09/05/2017 16:15

47 - Failure to recognise austerity hasn't worked.

ClarkWGriswold · 09/05/2017 16:17

Corbyn wants to invest in public services- education and health by taxing the rich more.

Corbyn's version of the 'rich' is anyone earning over £80,000 which basically alienates a massive percentage of his core London votes.

angemorange · 09/05/2017 16:19

You don't necessarily need to vote Labour - just choose a non-Tory, including local independents.

Radishal · 09/05/2017 16:22

I don't give a shit that JC is scruffy. Still not voting for him or for the Tories. I have voted Labour all my life. I am in my 50s.

Elendon · 09/05/2017 16:23

Rise in interest rates.
Austerity - though strangely that hasn't been mentioned - we know it's still happening
Lack of any plan for Brexit
I'm not a turkey
I care

Elendon · 09/05/2017 16:24

Part 2

The NHS
Education
Job security

noblegiraffe · 09/05/2017 16:26

Because underfunding the 15 free childcare hours meant that my two local pre-schools were forced to close meaning DD is now getting her hours at a private nursery which has ended up costing me more money and inconvenience.

Because of the total and utter balls-up they've made of the curriculum changes. KS2 SATs are a shambles, the new GCSEs are so poorly thought-through it's unbelievable and the new A-levels and scrapping AS levels against all advice has resulted in a plummeting uptake in maths A-level which will have repercussions for the country and economy.

Because the government line is that school funding is at an all-time high when the national audit office shows that £3 billion in budget cuts will be needed by 2020. And because their line is that teaching remains an attractive profession when 1 in 10 teachers quit last year.

They don't have a clue what they're doing.

Elendon · 09/05/2017 16:26

Part 3

Teresa mae

(well if you are going to misspell Corbyn, I'm joining in)

TessTube · 09/05/2017 16:29

Labour also have no Brexit plan.

Theresa Mays Brexit plan is to be a "bloody difficult woman" from an alternate galaxy.

It's all great isn't it.

Hillarious · 09/05/2017 16:31

AIBU to ask why we need to be reminded not to vote Conservative?

TessTube · 09/05/2017 16:33

Agree Radishal.

I find it a bit/a lot patronising that people think he's not getting votes because he's a bit crinkly and bothers veg or whatever.

RoseGoldProsecco · 09/05/2017 16:33

camomila - exactly, same here.

in fact, if you could allocate where your taxes were spent, I think we'd find that the nhs and education were just fine. MP's salaries*, on the other hand.....

  • although of course that is part of the problem - we can't pay peanuts and get monkeys, as we need intelligent and competent people to do the job (hollow laugh)
Beyondworried · 09/05/2017 16:37

Everything above plus they want to make the sport of terrorising and killing our wildlife legal again

LittlePickleHead · 09/05/2017 16:39

Camomila
"But I'd be fine if labour/lib dems/whoever said 'we'll tax you an extra X a month and that's ringfenced for the nhs'"

This is exactly what the LibDems are proposing

LittlePickleHead · 09/05/2017 16:39

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39822306

SusannahL · 09/05/2017 16:43

Reason TO vote Tory....

To prevent the Labour party getting in power. Even if clueless Corbyn weren't leader I would still say the same.

Dawndonnaagain · 09/05/2017 16:44

Susannah There are people on other threads, disabled people complaining about hunger pains and you want to vote Tory...

TessTube · 09/05/2017 16:44

RoseGold

I dunno I cant imagine anyone's voluntarily paid more tax but I guess people do donate to hospitals/political causes instead.

Just in case it gets used on Boris' teabags.

I like the Lib Dems idea.

Radishal · 09/05/2017 16:48

Dawn, that is Susannah's democratic right based on what her priorities are. You or I may disagree with her vote. I won't vote Tory but I can't vote Labour with JC in charge. That's also my democratic right. Deal with it.

cathf · 09/05/2017 16:51

Reasons not to vote for Labour?
They only have one policy: Oooh that's awful - we would do something about that.
They are going to 'save' the NHS, increase spending massively to schools, end student nurse loans, build more homes, increase the minimum wage, more workers rights at the expense of jobs, more tenants' rights at the expense of homes for rent ... and the money for ALL of that is coming from 'taxing the rich'
It's easy to make promises you know you will never have to keep.
Do Labour supporters really think that there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?
Do Labour supporters really think that businesses are waiting to pay the tax they have avoided and the Tories have just not bothered?
Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Hedgehogparty · 09/05/2017 16:54

Radishal that's my position too....
Won't vote Tory, but can't vote Labour with Corbyn at the helm..

Timeforabiscuit · 09/05/2017 16:56
  1. Shambles that is the air pollution strategy

  2. Non delivery of drug strategy

  3. Not reaching housing build targets, then changing paramaters of funding, then cutting social housing provision

  4. Moving universal credit to payment monthly, with no arrears, and two week minimum processing - people needing this benefit dont tend to have money in the bank.

  5. Policies insisting on a bank or post office account to pay benefits into, when a bank refuses to open an account due to no income.

  6. Restructuring of probation into two services, still not getting intended results

  7. Civil service has to all intents and purposes imploded,

  8. Prisons, no longer a place of rehabilitation or safety for inmates or staff

TessTube · 09/05/2017 16:57

I'm going to vote Labour as I'm in a marginal seat and the proposed MP seems decent.

Radishal · 09/05/2017 16:59

54? I'm a civil servant. I must have missed the implosion.