Reasons to not vote Tory this GE

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1. Bedroom tax
2. Denying disability benefit to 165,000 people
3. Scrapping housing benefit for 18-21 year olds
4. Benefit cap
5. Rise in uni tuition fees
6. Junior doctors' contracts
7. Scrapping nurses' bursaries
8. Snoopers' charter
9. Social care cuts
10. Public sector pay freeze

10. NHS "10 year diet"

There are many many more!

Corbyn wants to invest in public services- education and health by taxing the rich more. Surely you'd have to be completely ignorant and selfish to not agree with this? 4 more years of the Tories will be the end of the NHS, we'd be fucking stupid to let this happen.

And after Diane Abbott not knowing her brief, here's Angela Rayner messing up the details in a radio interview this morning. Why don't the Labour politicians have the numbers at their fingertips - they are going to be asked how many children are in classes over 30...if you don't know that how can you know how much it will cost to reduce class sizes.

order-order.com/2017/05/10/angela-rayner-diane-cant-remember-class-size-numbers/

I have my reservations about a £10 NMW too. George Osbourne hijacking the 'living wage' started the politicisation of it which I think was a mistake.
FSM for all is one I'm ambivalent about. For many children it may be their best meal of the day. For some it may be their only meal. I'd like to see the governance around the proposal to ensure there isn't an issue with waste.
I'm enjoying Sea's posts. Like others I don't think Corbyn is a messiah. I voted for him twice. Partly because I liked what he said, partly because I didn't want any of the others.
I think housing is at the core of this country's problems with wages and poverty. Reducing the cost of rental housing will bring the HB bill down, put money back into the economy and make wages feel better. I can't see why this isn't a great policy. It will cost money but it's a long term vision. We have too much short term thinking.

yes, housing is a huge long term issue that no party has done a good job of solving. I'm sure that's right that's the main reason many people feel so hard up.

I didn't see the point of the coup then just putting up an Anyone But Corbyn candidate.

I suppose no one wanted to get their hands dirty.

No the coup was bloody stupid. I couldn't understand how someone had persuaded Angela Eagle into it. And why Owen Smith thought he was the man was beyond me. God knows what they were promised by the puppet masters.

desperation probably. I've just watched Maxine Peake's party political broadcast and I don't disagree with anything she says - but there are so many badly thought out damaging policies. Let's hope the manifesto is better!

The tories will have lost a few votes with the fox hunting caper at least. They've got a few to lose though!

Still trying to understand the full Labour party announcement on education. Removing tuition fees seems likely to be in the manifesto, funded by a 7% increase in national insurance contributions (tax by another name in my view) from people earning more than £50,000, and an increase of 2.5% in corporation tax (although I thought that was funding reducing class sizes).

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/education/universities/news/85800/angela-rayner-hints-labour-manifesto-pledge-scrap-tuition

I think I've got there - the cost of all their education announcements total £30 billion.

Here's John McDonnell talking about it, although he doesn't mention how it will be funded:

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/education/universities/news/85805/excl-watch-john-mcdonnell-confirms-labour-government-would

Angela Eagle seemed to be a bit FFS I'll do it then.

She got some shocking abuse afterwards I was following her page out of interest.

Big old mess though.

I still think she was promised support and was hung out to dry. The abuse was shocking and disappointing.

Here's the BBC analysis of raising funds via increasing corporation tax

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39869118

It was being sold as a vote winner - though I'm surprised by that.

Don't forget this isn't just a binary choice between two parties. If you don't like May or Corbyn then there is a third option in most constituencies, and more than three choices in some .

Don't forget this isn't just a binary choice between two parties. If you don't like May or Corbyn then there is a third option in most constituencies, and more than three choices in some .

shaking my head at this - text of LBC interview with Rayner - did they learn nothing from Abbott's interview? :

AR: Well, there’s differences, there’s variants in terms of class sizes over 30. There’s even some that are over 40…

NF: … what number of pupils are we talking about?

AR: Well, there’s quite a substantial number of pupils. I haven’t got the numbers on hand, Nick. But it is quite substantial.

NF: Are we talking about 50 children, 5,000 children, five million?

AR: It’s a significant number. It’s not 500 or 5000 — it’s significant.

NF: You’ve said that three times. Do you not think it would be a good idea to have a sense of how many children we’re talking about… you are the shadow education secretary.

Funny if it weren't so tragic!

I'm sure the thread has moved on from your initial question op, but the fact that 114 files on the westminster peodophile ring were 'lost' by her department when she was home secretary. That says it all about the calibre of her character.