To ask how the NHS will be saved by labour

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Currently reading a lot of conservative bashing on FB etc about the privatisation of the NHS, I've seen the labour promise to 'save the NHS' but I haven't seen anything about how they will fund this. AIBU to ask if anyone knows?

Increase the national debt I suspect.

Borrowing and higher taxes.

Higher taxes, more borrowing and then a fucktonne of excuses and blaming previous administrations when they realise they can't create the utopia they imagined once existed

What spare said.

Fairy dust and unicorns

They're also going to 'take back the wealth' from the wealthy. Their words, like Corbyn is some ageing Robin Hood.
'Take back the wealth' eh?? Well we didn't take it, we earned it, so fuck off Corbyn.

It won't more spending, like putting a Band Aid on a gaping wound. We have to take responsibility towards it, use it when we absolutely need it. Don't phone emergency services because the take away is closed, reduce your alcohol, eating, and smoking. Only use A&A for an absolute emergency, that sort of thing.

Trouble is, history shows that as tax increases, less tax is collected.

Take back the wealth, because someone worked hard and earned that.

Their bar for 'wealthy' is ridiculously low. They will end up taxing the fuck out of middle class people who have the audacity to have a decent job. And it still won't be enough, but hey, the politics of envy will be satisfied

By increasing pay for NHS workers to make them want to stay working as HCPs, sounds like a pretty good start to me!

I agree Saucery, we are not wealthy, we rely on dh income of £55k, but are taxed 40% on that already, if Labour get in, even more. So its not like they are targeting the million and billionaires , they are targeting the ordinary middle class.

If we fall for their shit they will flail about incompetently and put more and more of the burden on those earners. Plus most likely on small businesses etc. It won't be worth climbing that career ladder.

They started the privatisation though. DS was sent to a private hospital when they were still in power to get care as waiting lists were too big.

And lots of the infrastructure rebuilding started under them.

Really wish there was a separate topic to post in for politics/elections. There's so many going on in AIBU at the moment!

I agree with you OP though. It very frustrating with all this conservative bashing and labour encouraging when we don't actually know true facts.

Aero - were the same as you finance wise, and I'd really rather them not take any more 'tax' from us. We need that money to survive, and I don't want to have to struggle if a money grabbing party wins.

I'm still not sure who I'm voting for, but I wish there were more facts, rather than hear says about what they are planning to do if either parties at elected etc. Think I'm swaying more to conservatives to be honest, but we need more truth.

By scrapping parking charges and taxing the rich you know anyone earning over 70 k

motherhood do you feel £22k is high enough pay for junior doctors/nurses? Is £16k enough for mental health support workers who are literally kicked and spat at?

I agree Saucery, we are not wealthy, we rely on dh income of £55k, but are taxed 40% on that alread

You are not taxed at 40% on the whole 55k though, are you? Its also more than twice the national average salary.

MotherhoodFail, that is exactly what mypartner says, Corbyn and his magic money tree, lol.

I am getting so feckin fed up with people on my facebook page thinking the sun shines out his arse!! how can they see he is not credible??

He'll use the golden egg laying unicorns he keeps in his back garden #hasntgotaclue

Yep cos only Labour increase the national debt

No FruitCider they aren't taxed 40% on the whole £55k and yes, it may well be "double the national average" - do you have an issue with that?

How has this even happened bearing in mind austerity?