Why is MN so transphobic?

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I really don't understand it but it makes me sad. Trans people just want to get on with their lives and are at more risk of being harmed or murdered than anyone else.

Fancy answering my question OP? Or anyone else? What specific aspects of womanhood are identifiable? When a man identifies as a woman, exactly what is he identifying with?

So you have no knowledge on this subject op?
If you didn't know that the majority of transwomen don't have gender reassignment genital surgery?
Why are you pretending to know what you are talking about?

Imagine being that distressed by your own body that you'd ant to mutiliate it. Just horrible.

Yes, the denial of the genuine existence of trans people is a textbook example of transphobia.

They certainly exist, who's denying that

'Ehh, that doesn't sound right.'

It's true though. At least have a cursory glance at some stats before you start a thread proclaiming women have nothing to be concerned about.

Imagine being that distressed by your own body that you'd ant to mutiliate it. Just horrible.

Imagine the hundreds of thousands of young girls subjected to FGM because of their female biology. You should probably tell them if only they'd identified as male it never would have happened!!

A transphobic comment would be something like "I hate trans people and don't think they should have the right to access healthcare", not "I don't think transwomen are women".

No, both those things are transphobic. I hope one day you can open your mind a little bit because you're on the wrong side of history.

If they feel there's something wrong with their body and their gender and it causes them distress. If they feel more able to relate to the opposite gender.

OP I suggest you do a lot more reading around your subject

it's not transphobic - honestly if you can not understand women's concerns about sharing personal spaces with men - and dismiss it as concern about 'seeing a fanny' then you need to seriously check your male privilege

Women's experience of male violence is real

Women have a right to women only space - without being told they are awful for not wanting a cock in there because it's owner claims to be 'a woman'

Define "woman" for us please and we'll engage fully with you, user, I'm sure. Thank you.

If they feel more able to relate to the opposite gender.

Ok but relating to what? If you relate to being a woman, what exactly are you relating to?

I don't like my tits or my c section belly, it doesn't mean I'm a man.

They certainly exist, who's denying that

You are, because you don't think their change is genuine.

Bingo
I got it with wrong side of history
Do I get a prize

Thought experiment. Replace 'trans' in those quotes with 'gay'. Do you still think they're not homophobic?

Here, I'll do it for you:

'It's cool to be a gay parent. Makes you look progressive and oh so tolerant. IMO just makes them look like a twat'

It's rather damning that you think those quotes are fine, because it shows how transphobic the general discourse about transgenderism is on mumsnet - it's just taken as ok to say that it's a mental illness, that supportive parents are twats and the driving force is sexual perversion.

I agree with you OP. And for what it's worth, I don't see men in their hundreds queuing to use the ladies. Yet the amount of debate on here about safe spaces being eroded would make you think it was an hourly occurrence.
Plenty of raging transphobia on this thread right from page 1.

Before this thread gets filled up, can we at least define terms?

If the OP, or any of their supporters, could say how they are using the term "woman" and how a man identifying as such is just the same as them (if they are a woman), that would be bloody marvellous. Given the dozens of threads over the years where the questions have been asked repeatedly and never answered.

I'm not male. I'm a transwoman and I have been this way since before I can remember. I was just born this way and I can remember hating my body since I was tiny.

"Imagine being that distressed by your own body that you'd ant to mutiliate it. Just horrible."

Yes, and I have nothing but sympathy with people who feel like that. But I'm afraid you are spectacularly behind the times in your understanding of the current state of trans-activism if you think everyone who now claims to be trans falls into this category - in fact, some of the most vocal transactivists now describe people with this degree of bodily dysphoria as "truscum" and are every bit as nasty to them as they are towards feminists.

Currently trans covers anyone who says they feel like a woman inside even if it's alternate Saturdays, or they sport a full beard, or they celebrate international women's day by inviting women to suck their "lady dick" (Daniele Muscato).

Is it me or are these threads the new mn ain't what it used to be.
Every week or 2 someone starts one

I have nothing to be scared of at all not even when a transwomen messaged me on FB to tell me "they would find me and fuck me with their lady penis until i changed my mind"

I'd say the wrong side of history is the idea of lady brains and the reinforcement of stereotypes. The trans ideology is taking us backwards.

Have you had genital reassignment surgery op?

Cross post with OP - okay, so now you're telling us you are trans. Yet you've never heard of transwomen who happily choose to keep their penises. Riley Dennis, Daniele Muscato, Alex Drummond...

Am I alone in smelling a rat here?