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To ask if you think Jeremy Corbin will stand down after GE?

341 replies

LenaDunham · 06/05/2017 01:44

Sorry, I know there are so many threads about the GE/politics.

I am just wondering what will happen after the GE. I am a Labour supporter and will vote Labour but I think it is highly likely Labour will come out very badly.

Will Jererny resign? Will there be a split? Are we really going to have Tory gov't again???

Anyone have any insights to give me hope?

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makeourfuture · 06/05/2017 08:49

he has a 'clear mandate' to lead the party.

He has been elected twice.

surferjet · 06/05/2017 08:50

Personality politics is what it's all about these days - just goes to show how shallow most voters are ( Labour in particular )
Who your leader is shouldn't really matter, what's important is that your party gets power so your values are represented - if JC is so alien to most Labour voters, why the hell has he been a labour MP for decades? ditto Diane Abbott?
These are your people - if they're not saying what you want to hear you're in the wrong party.
It's obvious what Labour voters are doing - all sitting around waiting for another Tony Blair to come along and save them, a younger, better looking, Tory Type more 'presentable' type. It's pathetic.
Get behind your leader fgs.

applecatchers36 · 06/05/2017 08:51

He is responsible for the destruction of the labour party. The total collapse of the labour vote under his leadership. His small deluded cult still clinging to power ushering in a huge Tory majority. People do not see him as a leader. I want to vote labour but will probably vote lib dem. We desperately need a strong opposition to hold the increasingly right wing tories to account... Sadiq, Chukka.. Younger, moderate candidates who will appeal to a broader population.. So incredibly depressing.

Havingahorridtime · 06/05/2017 08:51

I agree the hate for him is baffling.

He has Diane Abbott in a senior position, he hasn't costed any of his proposals and he created a smoke screen over the whole Ken living stone debacle. Those are just very recent things. And you can't understand why some people have no faith in him as leader and therefore hate that he is dragging the party down and making the Tory party stronger as a result?

BurnTheBlackSuit · 06/05/2017 08:52

What do you mean burn? Should he have looked weak and pathetic. Broken and ill. Is that what a good leader looks like in the face of defeat?

Not at all, but it's odd that he looked better and happier yesterday than he did a week ago.

RortyCrankle · 06/05/2017 08:53

As a Conservative voter I hope he clings on to the leadership for years Grin

Havingahorridtime · 06/05/2017 08:54

jc won the leadership by huge mandates twice and thats that

Nothing to do with the union members voted all counting as 3 of course Hmm

HomityBabbityPie · 06/05/2017 08:54

He has Diane Abbott in a senior position
So? Confused. Any number of total idiots are currently in senior positions all over the country.

He hasn't costed any of his proposals
So a standard politician then.

and he created a smoke screen over the whole Ken living stone debacle
Again, a standard politician move then.

I don't love him or anything but I don't see why he's more reprehensible than any other politician.

BurnTheBlackSuit · 06/05/2017 08:54

The favourites for next Labour leader, according to oddschecker are:
Yvette Cooper 5/1
Kier Starmer 6/1
Clive Lewis 12/1
LIsa Nandy 14/1

HomityBabbityPie · 06/05/2017 08:55

And no, I don't understand why any labour supporter wouldn't vote labour given the alternative is Tory.

PamBagnallsGotACollage · 06/05/2017 08:56

Yes surferjet!

But burn, why is it odd?

BurnTheBlackSuit · 06/05/2017 08:56

*He has Diane Abbott in a senior position
So? confused. Any number of total idiots are currently in senior positions all over the country. *

TM has Boris!

intheknickersoftime · 06/05/2017 08:57

I voted for Yvette Cooper the first time and would again. She has shown as an MP she's fully capable of holding Theresa May to account. I would love to see her lead the Labour party.

BurnTheBlackSuit · 06/05/2017 08:58

Pam. Why would the loss of so many councillors make him happy.

MarmaladeSoup · 06/05/2017 08:58

I think the Labour Party need a bloody good kick up the arse. Maybe getting thrashed in the general election will do just that?

user1493759849 · 06/05/2017 08:59

No. He's a stubborn goon who won't admit the Labour party being totally fucked up is entirely down to him.

He makes me want Ed Milliband back as leader.

Labour won't win the GE, there will be a Tory landslide, and Corbyn will stay Labour leader til he dies.

Tragic really. I have been a lifelong Labour supporter, and seeing the demise of the party is actually very upsetting.I will be voting Conservative on June the 8th, and I know many other (usual) Labour voters who will be voting Conservative too.

PamBagnallsGotACollage · 06/05/2017 09:00

For goodness sake burn. He probably isn't happy. He has posted lots of support for he mayoral wins on FB. He is focussing on the positives. I would rather see that than someone who looks like a forlorn mess. We don't need that now. We need someone who isn't going to show signs of defeat. It may well be a forgone conclusion now but why give in, weeping (looking sad).

Put on a brace face and continue.

PamBagnallsGotACollage · 06/05/2017 09:00

Brave.

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 06/05/2017 09:01

Sadly I think he will stay on regardless. I'm sure I heard something on R4 about some research in which everyone liked a particular set of policies until they were told they were Corbin/labour policies, and then they rejected them, so it does seem to be about personality and party labels. We just see more ineffective opposition, chaos and disorganisation from the party, him and Diane Abbott. Fine to have a 'clear mandate' from party members, but 300,000 votes isn't going to win a general election. I guess it's Ed Miliband's fault for changing the way labour elects its leader. It needs to be someone that can actually get things done and people would like to represent the country. Also regardless of your politics I would have thought it is a bit odd to imagine that the best response of the left to the population swinging right is to swing even further left.

TiggyMP · 06/05/2017 09:01

He has Diane Abbott in a senior position

Because 80 million people asked her to do the job.

WateryTart · 06/05/2017 09:02

God, I hope so. But I'm afraid he wont. He's deluded and under malign influences.

Paulinesnibs · 06/05/2017 09:07

I've been a member of the Labour Party over 10 years and voted for them for 20 years and I've been a supporter all my life. I voted for Corbyn twice because he is the person who best represents the ideals and ethos the Labour Party was built on. I'm not alone either so many long term Labour Party members support him and his politics because he is actually labour!

Please don't believe the lies that he is only in power due to torys voting for him or a looney left fringe.

silkybear · 06/05/2017 09:22

User1234 whatever, I simply don't believe the many people such as yourself that pop up on these threads to say you are a lifelong labour supporter but now that the conservative party are more far right than ever and as far from labour values as can be, now is the time you will be voting tory. What the fuck? It makes no sense at all and leads me to believe these posts are tory paid trolls, because surely nobody with any sense could see that as a logical transition. I don't understand the hate for Diane Abbott either, ok she fluffed her figures the other day but the level of hate for her is huge for no clear reason. Her constituents obviously like her otherwise she wouldn't be there. A lifelong labour voter implies you voted for tony blair even through the iraq years, surely corbyn is more palatable than that?

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 06/05/2017 09:22

Pauline that's fine but you need votes to win an election, so it doesn't matter how many party members support him, if he and the party don't appeal to enough of the rest of the electorate then they won't get in. In the end it's just the votes that count.

umizoomi · 06/05/2017 09:30

He should go. But I don't know if he will. The Labour Party never learn. JC is so unpopular and has been for a while amongst the electorate as a whole and his own MP's who launched a leadership campaign to out him. Many resigned because of him.

Yet the Party and unions voted him in because he is 'true labour' like the PP above. It was obvious sometime ago he wasn't capable of leading the party to a GE win as and when one came. Which frankly a leader should be.

The Labour Party need to wise up, get him out and find someone credible to form an opposition to what will be a massive Tory majority. Because whatever your politics, the UK government (whichever party in charge) needs a strong opposition to hold them to account

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