To ask if you think Jeremy Corbin will stand down after GE?

[LenaDunham]

Sorry, I know there are so many threads about the GE/politics.

I am just wondering what will happen after the GE. I am a Labour supporter and will vote Labour but I think it is highly likely Labour will come out very badly.

Will Jererny resign? Will there be a split? Are we really going to have Tory gov't again???

Anyone have any insights to give me hope?

I hope so, for the sake of Labour.

Oh please Blair has had a part in real political negotiations as it was part of his job when he was PM along with others who have held senior roles in government

Corbyn has never played a role in peace negotiations no matter how much his PR like to try and spin it and seems to only reach out to one side of the argument he should have been kicked out when he invited ex IRA prisoners to the HOC weeks after the Brighton Bombing absolutely disgrace behaviour. And then there is his editing contributions and his paid work for appearing on Iranian State TV oh yes so principled

Happy to share a platform with people who openly support terrorism yes won't with Cameron when they are supposedly on the same side utterly pathetic

Like Livingston people can see through this I am just searching for the truth crap that comes from too many on the far left

Love the line that Corbyn is a terroist sympathiser while Theresa May sells arms to Saudi Arabia, a country with the most despicable human rights record.

Corbyn's terrorist connections are not 'well known'. He has opened up lines of communication with terrorists just like many politicians including Tony Blair have done before him. This kind of communication has resulted in peace treaties in the past including with the IRA

Oh fgs. This canard again. Thatcher, Blair and Major were prime ministers. They were in a position of power to negotiate deals. Corbyn was a back bench nonentity.

Yes,Thatcher had secret talks with the IRA. She knew she had to and that at that stage making it known publicly would be a disaster. There plenty of genuine reasons to criticise Thatcher, Blair and Major but this isn't one. Corbyn on the other hand- fair game.

Right now he should be crucifying the Tories for their disgusting policies - and he's not. I don't understand this.

Happy to share a platform with people who openly support terrorism yes won't with Cameron when they are supposedly on the same side utterly pathetic

This exactly. And he will refuse no doubt to share a platform with May if we are dragged into another Indy referendum.

I won't vote Tory, of course I won't. Doesn't mean I won't vote Labour with a heavy heart.

I don't think he'll stand down through choice.

I agree with Pam, too.

Labour party members are on here, saying they can't vote for JC, they're refusing to leaflet because they don't like JC, they claim they don't like his policies (which policies don't you agree with, by the way)?

At least, they say they are Labour party members, because, in actual fact, they are doing more damage to the Labour party than the Conservatives could hope for.

If you're going to engage people and encourage them to vote for your party, don't go around telling them 1001 reasons why you can't support your leader! For heaven's sake, when you're not moaning about JC, you're tearing into Tony Blair: a leader who won you 3 elections!!

What loses elections is disunity, the impression of an unprincipled, back-biting rabble who can't agree. That's what really lost the 1983 election: Labour party members criticising their leader and their manifesto.
It's what lost the Conservatives their elections in their wilderness years: they scrabbled and schemed against each other publicly.

Now, if Labour party members can't get behind the Labour party, if LibDems can't see that opposing the Conservatives is the real aim right now, they are letting down the electorate and encouraging them to vote elsewhere.

The Conservatives, behind the scenes, are just as disunited and treacherous as they always were.
Do you think the Conservatives are really proud of TM? Don't you think that, privately, they can't wait to be shot of her?
Right now, they are simply very good at covering all that up. Why do you think they're trying to brainwash everyone with their soundbites?

Do you really think if Corbyn was PM he wouldn't be dealing the Saudi

He would have to and somehow replace the money made from selling arms to them

silkybear - I think your post highlights the labour party's biggest issue in the last two years. They've let the press/tories/other parties make out that a vote for labour would be crippling for the country. If they'd actually got on with their job of opposing rather than internal squabbling then maybe people wouldnt take TM's chants of 'strong and stable' at face value. After all, what is strong and stable about a leader who has failed to achieve her main promise as Home Secretary and has gone back on every position she's held since becoming PM? The fact that she only became leader because everyone else dropped out of the race is very telling...

Despite his tenacity, I don't think he can hold on if they loose.

Mind you, who replaces him? Leadership in the Labour Party is sadly lacking.

This cannot be repeated often enough:

Happy to share a platform with people who openly support terrorism yes won't with Cameron when they are supposedly on the same side utterly pathetic

Ok I'm done, I don't think I can read any more threads like this or engage with them. Turkeys voting for fucking xmas is what it is, and it is so deeply frustrating I don't know where to begin. I await all the threads moaning about school funding and elderly parents dying on A&E trolleys and the confusion as to why this could possibly be happening

I really really hope so. I am a party member and will be til I die but I simply can't bare the fact that we are going to be destroyed at the polls.

All those well meaning right on individuals who will deliver a Tory landslide and 10 years of reforms that will destroy our country. Because they think corbyn is the second coming when really he is nothing but a weak, spineless individual who has never lead anything in his life. This does not serve anyone I joined the Labour Party to represent

Sadiq Khan would be an electable Labour party Leader. As someone said up thread, he is enthusiastic and energised. He is young, dynamic and seems in touch with ordinary people and key issues. He would be a fresh and exciting face of the Labour Party.

Sadiq Khan might be young and enthusiastic but has done fuck all with any of his election pledges, a year on now.

It's a shame that 2 of the main people I can think of to lead Labour are now mayors and out of the running - Khan or Burnham would certainly make a better job of it. However I think that Yvette Cooper would keep TM on her toes well enough.

I can't vote Tory because I don't think they are handling austerity with any kind of humanity.

I can't vote labour because I cannot vote in a party that would increase the deficit and tax the (further) hell out of me along the way.

Who the FUCK can I vote for?

Not everyone on here is going to vote Tory I'm not

If the Labour Party had a leader that could lead the opposition (and of course didn't have Corbyn's connections) and they proposed solid workable proposals and came across as competent then far more people would vote Labour. Corbyn and his team and supporters have only themselves to blame peoeple won't take the risk of voting in such an incompetent leader it's not a student union rep job it the role of PM and government that he simply isn't up to

I like Yvette cooper too but hate to say it labour is still fairly mysogynistic and not sure a woman would make it yet.

I am a Labour Party member and Corbyn would be a disasterous PM not to mention the witness Abbott as home sec and the truly thick Thornbury for foreign sec. doesn't best thinking about.

No way would I vote for them. I love my country too much
I feel Party less.

I am in the same position Nice

Holding on to party membership so
I can vote Corbyn out

I'm not meaning to be goady, MyKingdomForBrie, but if you oppose budget cuts but dont support tax raises how do you propose to avoid cuts to public services? A 1p tax raise equates to £3 a week if you're on the average wage, from the sound of some threads on here that's less than some schools are requesting in voluntary donations! And I do 100% agree that even £3 a week would stretch people's budgets, but again less than having to fork out for private healthcare which is where we will be heading without a serious cash injection into the NHS

Corbyn has failed to engage with most of the electorate and can't provide a credible opposition, at a time when there is tons of potential to do so. As a former labour voter there's no way I'd want him in power, so it is the lesser of two evils really neither of the main parties appeal to the centre ground which imo is where most of the country want to be. I'm intending to vote libdem this time. I hope the Labour Party recovers.

I'd have thought other disillusioned labour voters will go libdem. Even if we end up with another coalition at least that will dampen the extreme right wing tory element.