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To ask if you think Jeremy Corbin will stand down after GE?

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LenaDunham · 06/05/2017 01:44

Sorry, I know there are so many threads about the GE/politics.

I am just wondering what will happen after the GE. I am a Labour supporter and will vote Labour but I think it is highly likely Labour will come out very badly.

Will Jererny resign? Will there be a split? Are we really going to have Tory gov't again???

Anyone have any insights to give me hope?

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Littlecaf · 06/05/2017 08:15

I think after the GE Labour must split so JC and Momentum can be one political party and Centrist Labour can be a separate party. Otherwise Labour will be in the wilderness forever

This is unfortunately what I think will happen. Which is ridiculous as a party can be a broad church and still represent the views of their members & MPs. The current Labour leadership is incredibly poor at doing this.

I'm a life long Labour supporter and JC makes me want to cry. He's just awful and is decimating the party.

WashingMatilda · 06/05/2017 08:17

I also wish he didn't look so irritable all the time. To my mind, irritable is next to flustered. He compares so poorly to for instance Sadiq Khan who always looks so energetic and enthused

That is such a good point. I've always wondered what this way was he had about him.
He makes no secret of the fact he despises the media, and in many ways he is right to, they are no friend to him, but what he fails to realise is that, whether he likes it or not, they have an unprecedented amount of power and sway on the general public, and he's just not coming across well at all.
I am from a card carrying labour party family and was proud to be so. I have stuck stickers on me and leafleted for miles and miles, talking to people on the doorstep.
.....In every GE except this one.
It's embarrassing Sad

user1471596238 · 06/05/2017 08:18

I am admittedly repeating what I've read elsewhere but if Corbyn had leadership qualities, how come it has taken so many years for him to be noticed?

TheLuminaries · 06/05/2017 08:20

To Jeremy, in the words Cromwell used said to the Long Parliament 300 years ago: ''You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. In the name of God, go!''

SouthWestmom · 06/05/2017 08:22

JC is on social media - I follow him on FB and Twitter.

SpaghettiMeatballs · 06/05/2017 08:23

Put it this way... my poor Nan has had a stroke and her speech is all slurred and an effort. I was chatting about the news with her and she rallied herself enough to struggle out the phrase 'and still Corbyn won't go'.

There are so many times he should have gone and hadn't. Only in recent weeks he fronted out the Copeland byelection disaster.

The only thing that will see him gone is losing his own seat. The people of Islington are our only hope now.

Havingahorridtime · 06/05/2017 08:23

I'm a life long Labour supporter and JC makes me want to cry. He's just awful and is decimating the party.

This is exactly how I feel.

makeourfuture · 06/05/2017 08:24

Tempted to join just so I can vote him out next time someone with a bit more about them than the last guy gets the balls to stand against him.

This is the answer. Join and vote.

BurnTheBlackSuit · 06/05/2017 08:28

He can't resign before the GE. Well, he could but that wouldn't help Labour as they would go into the GE without a leader - their leadership election is quite long winded and would take longer than a month.

After the GE, if Labour do badly then yes he should go. Or Labour should split. Hopefully the centrist party of the party can then be centre left and not Tory lite and can have a leader who believes in the NHS etc but will be someone who can get elected in 2022. And hopefully not another Tony Blair. The left wing Momentum JC half of the party can then be themselves without constraint, and if they exisit they can kept Centrist Labour "left", in the same way that UKIP made the Conservatives more "right".

Believeitornot · 06/05/2017 08:28

JC is on social media - I follow him on FB and Twitter

I mean a stronger campaign. Not him and his witterings.

coldcanary · 06/05/2017 08:29

No he won't go willingly. He is convinced he's the best thing to happen to the party in years as are his supporters. If Labour do get battered it will be everyone else's fault - the media, backstabbers in the Labour Party, whoever. if the Tories win big it will be the fault of the stupid/delusional/racist/insert insult of choice here voters rather than a lack of confidence in the Labour Party to deliver any substantial or realistic policies to win over voters.
He'll get pushed out and the party will split. With any luck someone with sense will take over.

PamBagnallsGotACollage · 06/05/2017 08:29

believeitornot, he isn't all over Facebook and Twitter. He posts regularly.

I am a Labour supporter and I voted for JC.

I do think he is a victim of a media campaign and most people's view of him not being Leadership Material is a result of that. And he doesn't fit people's image of what a leader should look like, sound like, or how a leader should behave. I think he has a lot of integrity and genuinely cares for the people of Britain, especially those people and public services that have been hard done by during the current Conservative rule. He wants tos tabs up for them.

I cannot get my head round why the Tories did so well in the local elections when they are ripping the NHS and the education system to pieces. And the welfare cuts affecting those most vulnerable in society...Don't people give a shit and want to see this end?!

PamBagnallsGotACollage · 06/05/2017 08:29

That should say he IS all over Facebook...

BurnTheBlackSuit · 06/05/2017 08:30

Also, weirdly JC looked much happier and healthier yesterday than he has in a long time. What's that about?? Confused

PamBagnallsGotACollage · 06/05/2017 08:31

He wants to stand up for them.

I really should proof read.

DrinkMilkAndKickAss · 06/05/2017 08:33

I can't foresee the Labour Party splitting, not when we have the political system that we do. With the SNP, plaid, green and lib dems the left is already so fractured that a majority govt other than the tories is probably impossible with FPTP unless there's a labour movement strong enough to wipe out all but the SNP. That's why I can see JC clinging on as he knows people are better off in the club than outside on their own.

Polling has showed that his policies are actually pretty popular, and mostly not as far left as he's made out in the media. Undeniably though he has failed to provide an opposition to the tories. There's so much these last two years that he could have jumped on and hasn't. So logically he should go, in reality unlikely.

HomityBabbityPie · 06/05/2017 08:34

I agree with Pam.

Do lifetime labour supporters really think a Tory government is the better option?

LovelyBath77 · 06/05/2017 08:36

I think if JC really cared for the Labour party he would have the sense to see that it would be better with a different leadership. Anyone can see that. However he seems deluded and obsessed with his place rather than the overall situation. Can't he see past the fact that him being in charge is going to be a huge bonus to the Tories? It seems not.

PamBagnallsGotACollage · 06/05/2017 08:37

What do you mean burn? Should he have looked weak and pathetic. Broken and ill. Is that what a good leader looks like in the face of defeat?

LovelyBath77 · 06/05/2017 08:39

And as cold says the blame things and lack of responsibility- it's always someone else's fault. Almost seems like an extension to the view of others being wrong / protest type philosophy.

JC is untouchable and can do no wrong. But at the same time leading his party into the worst state is has been in years, and that doesn't matter as it's all about him.

silkybear · 06/05/2017 08:40

I agree the hate for him is baffling. The only thing I can conclude is that people believe the media slurs against him, although with a right wing press no labour leader will have an easy ride. Alot of the blairite labour supporters are throwing their toys out of the pram at the moment and don't seem to realise that jc won the leadership by huge mandates twice and thats that. just get behind him and get the tories out!

RedHelenB · 06/05/2017 08:42

It's all well and good saying go but who is there to replace him? Labour opponents have fallen into the Tory trap of fighting amongst themselves. The EUROPEAN referendum was about staying or leaving not about party politics so trying to oust him then was a very stupid thing to do.

SauvignonBlanche · 06/05/2017 08:43

Sadly, I think he'll cling to power, parroting that he has a 'clear mandate' to lead the party.

fourmonthstogo · 06/05/2017 08:45

Thanks Sheldon

twojumpingbeans · 06/05/2017 08:47

I wish he would. I've been a Labour Party member for 10 years and I've never known such discord. I am genuinely afraid that this election will be the beginning of the end of Labour. I've joined the Women's Equality party as an affiliate and am feeling much more aligned with their views and campaigns than with Labour atm.

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