To ask who is happy with the way Brexit is going?

[Bearbehind]

I've started a few threads with similar titles over the months but this weekend seems to have been an outpouring of bad news so I wondered who is actually happy with how things are going

From where I'm standing

-It's looking like the government are actually as deluded as many of us feared if you believe the leaked account of this weeks meeting with the EU.
-Theresa May's election campaign is made up of staged events with staged audiences and preselected questions

• there is no opposition to speak of

Who is happy with these continued sound bites in lieu of actual answers and policies?

herethereandeverywhere, I cant remember his name but I remember a government minister saying that that is exactly what will/is happening, and they agree with two thirds of what the EU want. So negotiations will be focused on the small areas that they dont agree with. Doesn't that sound like what you are suggesting?

We can't answer what we don't know. Why aren't you getting that?

Do you think that those who voted leave or are happy with the way the vote has went have some secrets being given to us in what good will happen?

Do you think that those who voted leave or are happy with the way the vote has went have some secrets being given to us in what good will happen?

Exactly this ^^

Bear will you ever be happy though with what leaver has to say. I think Jaime has posed some good points as have ever people.

How is it going so far? Well, I haven't RTFT, but so far, not great for me as a European in the UK, having just learnt of the government's intention to reduce my rights to third-country rights. So yeah, in combination with still not having secured permanent residency (my last application went missing in the post), not great at all.

Shame the intolerant bigots closed the Arms down or we could have popped in for a glass of fizz.

I used to post in the Brexit Arms quite a bit under previous names, but I gave up on it a while ago now - I got thoroughly sick of the same moaning faces repeatedly coming on whenever they felt like a Brexiter deserved a kicking.
The final nail for the EU topic was a few weeks back when smallfox returned yet again under another guise and deployed her usual tactics all over the threads. I browse still, but have lost the will tbh.

I'll pop over on election night though to say hi to the old regulars

bear
No one knows what the final deal will be as both sides will make outrageous demands. The very worst it can be is wto preferential rate but that suits neither side. Compromise will be reached but with elections due in many european nations everyone is trying to look tough at the minute. The UK & EU will not shoot itself in the foot unless 1 of the sides are unreasonable, my only fear is the EU will be but that will have consequence on a lot of their own nations.
If the uk can get negotiations underway with BRICS nations then we open a market much greater than the eu and will show the UK is open and reasonable when it comes to trade.

I used to post in the Brexit Arms quite a bit under previous names

Out of curiousity, how many names were you posting under in the Brexit Arms?

Out of curiousity, how many names were you posting under in the Brexit Arms?

Does it matter?

I never sock puppeted, and informed MN every time I changed it.

Was just about to answer some of the q's above. Yeah, sure you were Wrong....

I bet those answers are right on the tip of your tongue. Absolutely the only thing from stopping you from providing informative Brexiter point of view answers to those points is that Bear came on and said you wouldn't answer....

....and you want to be treated like an equal and a grown up

Just popping back to say two things.

1. bear and here You are both insisting that you have not insulted me on this thread. The above comment firstly calls me a liar, secondly, implies I am in some way incapable of answering here's questions and thirdly, implies it is reasonable to treat me not as an equal and not as a grown-up. I don't know what planet you are from where these are not insults, but here on planet Earth, they are.

2. For leavers, I do recommend Twitter. The views are a lot more mixed and there seems to be a lot less baiting going on. I am following people with all sorts of views (on Brexit and other issues) and most of the conversation is civil and intelligent. There is also a block button, for the odd tweeter who is entirely motivated by having a go at leave voters.

peter the arms were on going long threads, each time a new thread opened up its fine to change your name.

This is why a poster called Smallfox was banned though, they kept sock pup petting and spewing bile all over the arms.

Anyway with latest developments I am more glad than ever TM is at the helm!

I will join you all in the arms on election night

An end to FOM? Means if you want to move to our country, you will have to get our permission before you come.

And how will this be decided? How will this be managed given that the UK has no ID cards or system of managing who is living where? What about all the existing EU nationals and those that are needed to keep certain sectors of the economy going. We can't just shut the gates. What will happen in NI/Gibraltar and with the border at Calais??

An end to budget contributions means we wont have to pay the EU for the privilege of doing trade.

No, we will probably have to pay tariffs instead, meaning everything becomes more expensive. Supply chains for manufacturing will be fucked.

And end to ECJ rule means when the supreme court rules it cant be appealed at the ECJ

Who will decide in the event of intercountry disputes?

The ability to do our own trade deals seems self explanatory to me.

We already trade with most of the world. What emerging markets are you seeing that will takeover the 50% we currently export freely to the EU?

We will also start to feel like British citizens again and there wont be the confusion of us being EU citizens.

WTAF does that mean?

We will have a British representative on international bodies instead of just being one of 28 represented by the EU.

WHich bodies are you thinking of?

We wont be directly exposed when anything bad happened in any of the other EU countries.

If there are serious issues in Europe, financial or otherwise how do you think we will escape them?

We wont feel like the EU is our keeper and we are able to stand on our own 2 feet making us more confident.

WTAF does this mean?

They are not sound bites, they are the positives I voted to leave the EU for. And I will put up will some hurdles to get there.