AIBU to be grossed out ?Autogynaphila and Mrs Goss

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Not quite sure if my reaction is justified to be honest. Have just been in a conversation with a psychologist friend about feminism, trans issues and various theories of the advantages of gender rolls in evolutionary theory etc - wide ranging and pretty interesting as we are both gender critical but have differing views on biological aspects. He however raised the issue of late transitioning autogynaphils and how part of the fetish is being acknowledged as female/feminine/sexually attractive. I was sort of aware of autogynaphila but didnt honestly click what it ment or that it was a sexual fetish rather than an identity issue.
On Facebook I am member of Mrs Gloss a make up group and it's just occurred to me that its actually being used on occasion by autogynaphils to fuel their sexual fetishes if what he says is correct and it's really freaked me out to be honest.

I also left Gloss for similar reasons, I found something slightly 'off' about those attention-seeking posts from men who openly admitted to dressing as women at the weekends and wearing make up and then posting so frequently - looking for positive comments & validation I thought, hadn't crossed my mind that there was a sexual element to it. A lot of the comments are all 'great legs' 'wish I had your figure' and so on.

I was unsure about raising it for the same reason. I think it makes me uncomfortable partially because it seems to be the youngest members who respond too.

Trans is such a difficult issue at the moment and is a real hot potato so I can see the difficulty.

I don't really like the idea of this whole autogyn concept being thrown about.

Yes it's a thing, but I've seen it on a few MN threads (and presumably other places then) where it's being unfairly used to judge trans women as being "seedy" or fetishist in their intent. Surely everyone has their sexual orientations regardless/separate of being trans, and even if they do experience this erotica when dressing as a woman, it doesn't mean it is 100% their motive behind being trans.

IMHO this whole "I heard how some trans people dress up as women just because it turns them on" is overly simplistic, not taking into account that their gender identity does not fully define them, and, sorry, reminds me a bit of the ignorant tossers that exist who think all gay men fancy them just because they are gay.

Because a person is unwittingly taking an active role in someone else's "jollies". It's unethical!
And the site owner has come here and agreed, yet you are still arguing that they are doing nothing wrong?

Hate - yes. What I want (in an ideal world) is a place where all women are welcome and there's no sniping, nastiness or putting people down.

This doesn't mean everyone has to gush over looks that don't appeal to them and let's face it, there is lots on Gloss that doesn't 'speak' to me. So rather than take time out to post negatively regarding someone's eyebrows for example, I'd encourage members to scroll past and find something they like. That way, the eyebrows are left for those who like them to comment

Seems simple in my head

I have seen constructive criticism on there when it is asked for. There is a thread right now where opinions are being asked for and people are saying that the outfit isn't right.

I didn't think constructive criticism is given when it isn't asked for. From what I can see lots of the posts are from quite young women about the age of my daughter or from women who wear very heavy makeup. They are not asking for criticism and so I just scroll past.

Beyond - please tell me how you'd deal with it? You make it sound like a daily occurrence. It isn't

Anyway, I don't post on MN as a rule and certainly never about Gloss but I wanted to pop on and reassure anyone who might need reassuring that this is the odd thread and we are dealing with it

Thanks to the people who brought this thread to my attention

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Ah I get it :) thank you

Cherries, I haven't seen anyone say they have assumed the gender identity of these people, what makes you assume they identify as transgender?

That you assume any agp is transgender says a lot about you...

What has all this got to do with MN?

Sorry mrs g, I don't know what I have said that implies it's daily? I know it isn't (at least not that I've seen!!)

My post up there at 21.25 was replying to solidgold, if that is it?

Why are you discussing it on here? Can't you talk about it on the FB group?

Not as a woman, rather, as a man pretending to be a woman.

Solo, there is a large crossover of users between the group and mn, with mn having the benefit of being anonymous. I'd guess that's why?

Hmm, i took so long posting that that it's not sitting underneath my original comment!

No Solo any discussion or threads deemed even slightly unsavoury are deleted within seconds bitter

Thanks for your response Mrs G - reassuring

Because agp's post pictures of themselves on mrs goss and get off on the positive "wish I had your legs" etc comments?
Does it not bother you a little to have someone wank over something you write?

Are you serious?? You are bothered by someone wanking to WORDS you've written?? why the hell would you be?

I'm really very confused and am another who though of bros. I need to get out more

I worry about the lack of being able to constructively criticise on there.
The young girls who put far too much on and can't see how beautiful they are naturally is scary

As a mother of a 15 year old I find the pictures of the young girls hard to look at. However as a mother of a 15 year old I know that a mass critique from strangers online would hurt her immensely or she would just think " what do those old women know?"