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To think this is unkind? (Friend and baby related)

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Theoffwhite · 31/03/2017 18:52

I am friends with a group of three girls and we've known each other since college (A,B and C.) At the same age we all hit a stage we wanted to have kids (we didn't plan to try together, but we were all the same age and married.) We all found it quite difficult to conceive (all late thirties/40s)

Friend A tried for a while but was told she could not have children and so after a year of applying she adopted the loveliest little girl who is the same age as my dd. (She adopted her when she was 1yo.)

Friend B tried IVF for a short time but she felt it messed up her body and her hormones and decided she did not want to have children at all if It involved putting things into her body that would harm it. As part of this she also qualified to become a naturopath.

Friend C went ahead with IVF and eventually used a donor egg and had a baby, also a similar age to my dd and friend A's dd.

I eventually got pregnant naturally, had a dd and went on to have a ds too.

So there are three dds all a similar age, my ds who is a baby, and the four of us friends.

Now to the problem -

I feel that they have all ganged up on me about my ability as a parent, and imply that i do not deserve to have DCs.

I BF'd DD until she was 1 and am still BF-ing DS. I then swapped to formula for DD. All three of my friends have said I am not doing best by my DD by giving her aptamil instead of organic formula milk. Friend B, the naturopath, sets the tone of what is "best" and the others follow. And because I have not always followed her advice, I am looked down upon.

I also do not give my DC exclusively organic food, and again my three friends, the naturopath and those with the dds, eat all organic and have told me that I am lazy for not providing it for my DC.

When I weaned DD, I used a lot of Ella's kitchen pouches, which only led them to tell me that they thought I was being lazy (as they bought the organic veg, processed it themselves, potted it up etc.)

Friend A whose adopted daughter is almost exactly the same age as DD is extremely competitive about their progress and their behaviour and their clothes. She is constantly comparing our two dds and making jokes about how my DD had a head start (by not being adopted?!) and how she should be cleverer/more settled/more well behaved/more attached to parents than her DD but that her DD is running rings around my DD.

It's all made out to be a joke, but I don't really find it much of a joke. Friends B and C agree with her and they joke about how I find shortcuts in motherhood or let my Dc Watch too much TV or let them stay up too late and that I am an inappropriate person to have DC or somehow I am taking it for granted because it was so easy for me. They all refer to my DC as "poor DD AND DS," the implication that they have been born to someone who is all over the place. Again as a joke. That because I haven't been through the ringer with trying to have children that I am somehow inadequate and not part of the "club."

Friend C has had a full time, live-in nanny from the moment she had her DD, because she works long hours in a full time job. When I take my dc's over to friend C's house to play with her DD, I can tell that she has primed the nanny to find fault/give advice about childcare to me. From the moment I walk in the door, the nanny (an older woman) tuts that my DC are too cold, not wearing enough/ look unhappy / look tired/starving. DS is just starting to be weaned and I didn't realise until I got to her house the other day, but the nanny was under the impression (probably with orders given by friend C) that she had to teach me how to wean DS. I had already weaned DD so knew what to do, DS was already eating fine, and had never implied to any of them that I needed any help.

Friend C also keeps saying "are you STILL breastfeeding?" And rolls her eyes. Friend A also rolls her eyes. As if I am doing it deliberately to upset them. They say "stop putting your breasts in my face." Friend B pipes up "it's useless breastfeeding after a certain point, it becomes just like formula." Which I know ISN't true!

I don't feel competitive, I don't feel like I'm an inadequate mother. I don't show off (i have nothing to show off - DD is constantly tantrumming and they all roll their eyes as if it's my inadequate parenting,) I have never acted smug - i hate smugness in others and am very wary of it. I did nothing but support all my friends in their personal journeys, I never pushed my pregnancies in their faces, my kids are happy, healthy, loved.

But it's getting to the point where their personal feelings of insecurity - whatever they are - I certainly don't think any of them should feel that way - is bordering on being unkind to me. I think they have punished me enough for being able to conceive, have two DC, breastfeed, or whatever it is they have a problem with.

Trouble is if I mention it like this, it plays straight into their hands. It's almost like they want me to rub it in their faces that I have had two of my own DC, because they have somehow decided amongst themselves that I am smug about it. Our friendship only works if I put myself down and act like I never deserved to have my dc and what a joke the universe plays when it grants the joke person a chance to have their own DC.

OP posts:
GoodEyebrowDay · 31/03/2017 21:11

If you don't get out of this "friendship" your kids will pick up on it & start to believe you're/they're inadequate too

AcademicOwl · 31/03/2017 21:13

You need new friends. Don't create a falling out with old ones; just gently extricate yourself. No need for dramatics, but next time you're meant to see them, maybe you could be busy. And the time after that... life is too short. And you need to build a narrative for your children that friends tries to be kind & support each other. This situation does help them to learn how to treat people with kindness or respect.
Walk away; have a fresh start.

Vegansnake · 31/03/2017 21:16

Quite simply ,they are not yr friends...sadly x..plenty of time to find new ones 😃

HecateAntaia · 31/03/2017 21:17

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Thinkingblonde · 31/03/2017 21:19

I'd shut the nanny down straight away. It's none of her business how or what you feed your children, none of anyone's business in fact.

You need new friends, this lot bring nothing to your life, ditch them. You don't have to make a big song and dance about it. Stop returning calls, leave when they next criticise your parenting, choices.
Fuck 'em.

PicardsCombOver · 31/03/2017 21:22

Your frenemies are wankbadgers. Your OP alone reeks of their jealousy, what a disgusting way to behave. I realise it may be difficult at first but cut the bitches off like a gangrenous limb. Flowers for being an ace mum.

Mysteriouscurle · 31/03/2017 21:22

Fuck that shit as they say around here. Ive been eye-rolled at in the past. Anyone who does that to me now because of my choices is no longer a friend. I'll bet when you bow out 2 of them will start to turn on the other as they sound like they need to have someone to be picking on. You are conveniently filling that role for now

poppy2021 · 31/03/2017 21:23

This is bullying. Dump the. And find new friends who appreciate you. Try a local mother and baby group. If you are happy with they way you are bringing up your DC thenpm tell them (politely) to take a running jump

Redken24 · 31/03/2017 21:24

These don't sound like real friends.

HoldBackTheRain · 31/03/2017 21:25

And as they say around here, bollocks to that. What a shower of shite these women are. Bin them off - I promise in the long run you'll be much happier!

Groovee · 31/03/2017 21:26

I ended my friendship with 3 women who treated me like shit. Never looked back.

Chickendipper12 · 31/03/2017 21:31

Get more assertive or dump them

They wont change if you keep taking their shit

Funnyface1 · 31/03/2017 21:35

What are your enemies like? Seriously, these are not your friends. Maybe they were but their not now. This is a horrible way to treat you, your crime is being able to have children when they struggled and all i see in your post is jealousy and bitterness on their side.

Don't let them bring you down. Enjoy your children, make new friends and continue to parent the way you think is best.

DonaldStott · 31/03/2017 21:36

They sound like bullies tbh. You can smell their jealousy from your OP.

Just because you have been friends with them for a long time, it doesn't mean you have to stay friends with them.

They sound like they are ebbing away at your confidence and it will make you second guess yourself, for no reason other than their vile comments.

Life is too short for this kind of shit.

Get rid of them. They do not enrich your life as good friends should. They are making your life worse with their jealousy.

mummymummums · 31/03/2017 21:37

Reading this made me cross on your behalf OP. They are bullies, plain and simple. Get out of the friendship and do not look back.

Mummatron3000 · 31/03/2017 21:43

These people are not your friends. You don't need that sort of negativity in your life! Try to distance yourself from them. Hopefully you'll be able to find some real friends with kids who are actually supportive!

JustSpeakSense · 31/03/2017 21:54

Just because you were at college with these woman doesn't mean you share parenting styles, ditch these judgy bitches and for bad some mummy friends that share your parenting style, you don't have anything in common anymore.

PS I think everything about their behaviour points to jealousy (and they will be gossiping about you to each other all the time)

mrsclaus100 · 31/03/2017 22:15

Definitely sounds like jealousy or insecurities causing this. I found my Nct group of mums similar, incredibly competitive and judgemental. Not something that defines a 'friendship' so I made enough police declines until I got left out of group activities. Didn't need a big confrontation, just quietly distanced myself from them. I think you should be doing something similar. It doesn't sound like they are offering you much so I would get rid! No one needs friends who make you feel like poo Flowers

tabbymog · 31/03/2017 22:16

Walk away, they don't deserve your friendship. These are really nasty people. More importantly, your children are going to mix and it's going to rebound on all of them very badly. They don't deserve that. Find yourself some real friends, you sound like a very loving, caring person who'd find it very difficult to leave your longtime attachments, but would make other friends very easily, with people who will come to care about you and your DCs and you about them and theirs, genuinely.

xStefx · 01/04/2017 07:14

Go to different groups and find new friends. They sound bitter and resentful. They should be happy with what they have. They won't change either

Fishface77 · 01/04/2017 08:20

The thing is OP, have you actually said anything to them?
Have you ever pulled them up on their comments?

falange · 01/04/2017 18:10

They sound like characters from viz comic. Hilarious unless you actually have to know them in real life. Bunch of twats. Unfriend immediately.

Craigie · 01/04/2017 18:27

They are not your friends. They are bitches.

DagenhamRoundhouse · 01/04/2017 18:47

I'd like to see them persevering with all the organic stuff when the kids are at secondary school!

DaemonPantalaemon · 01/04/2017 18:58

6 pages and three days later, and the OP has not returned to respond to advice or answer questions. What a pity. Oh well, hope someone else gets something from all the fantastic advice given here!

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