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To ask my ex for more maintenance??

189 replies

Cactus76 · 28/03/2017 23:30

My first time posting here... I'll try to be succinct AND to include as much background as possible.

I left my husband nearly 8 years ago. It wasn't exactly an amicable split at the time. Our DS was 3. As we lived in the same city, he spent time with both of us, but slightly more with me. Because we were sharing care of our DS, we didn't bother with any formal maintenance, I just let him know each month how much I'd spent on childcare and anything else such as school shoes etc and he'd pay me half.

I have a new partner now, been together since not long after the split and now married and have a DD and DS together. After about 2 years we decided to relocate for many reasons and moved to a rural county 2.5 hours away by train. Our DS stayed with me. I felt very very guilty about taking him away from his dad and I didn't ask for any maintenance. Shortly after this my ex lost his job and was out of work for a good 2+ years, so obviously maintenance wasn't something we did. Although we live further away, I always facilitate contact when my ex requests it.

My ex is now working again and has been for 2-3 years. Shortly after he found a job I asked for some contribution and he set up a DD for £250 a month. Better than nothing. So, here's the issue. My OH is getting really irritated by this amount. I don't know what my ex is earning, but I know it will most likely be in excess of £80K. My OH pays his ex the best part of £2K per month in maintenance as calulated by his earnings. He also sees them every other weekend and pays for swimming lessons and other normal stuff (not a hero, just like he should!). If we went down the CSA route, I know we'd be 'entitled' to far more. Although we are reasonably comfortable, things are tight at times. My OH has no issues with supporting my son and he's lovely about it, but at the same time I think it's a matter of principle for him that my ex should be contributing more to his own son. I still feel guilty that I've separated my DS and his dad and know that if we hadn't moved they'd see more of each other so maintenance would be less any way. I also know, for a fact, that this coversation won't go well if I do approach him, he's not the easiest or most pleasant of chaps, hence the fact I'm no longer with him... So, WIBU to ask him for more? Am I being grabby, or just asking a father to do what he should be doing?? Agh!!

OP posts:
neonrainbow · 29/03/2017 12:59

Drip drip drip!

What are you contributing financially then?

MelinaMercury · 29/03/2017 12:59

So he built up a bond (albeit gradually), you moved DS away from that and now he's labelled a shit Dad?

This thread is bizarre Confused

NewPuppyMum · 29/03/2017 13:01

A few posters seem to think maintenance is a nice way of saying pay per view.

Quartz2208 · 29/03/2017 13:02

How much contact does he have now? That is vital in working out maintenance

Cactus76 · 29/03/2017 13:03

Melina - I've not said he's shit dad. He was a shit DH and didn't really bother with DS when we lived with him, but he's a good dad now that he's created that bond.

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kimann · 29/03/2017 13:05

OP - this is not about getting revenge on your exh because he wasn't very nice to you before is it? I get that new DH is great and he helped with your debts and got a lovely new house and all that. Is the £250 genuinely not enough? If so, maybe you could write down exactly what your son needs etc and show it to your ex - in black and white he can see it all and hopefully that will show him he needs to pay more?

Cactus76 · 29/03/2017 13:05

Quartz - he's in the 'less than 52 days per year category'. If he realised that seeing him more would reduce the payments, and as a result had more weekends with him, that would be great. I'd much rather the money went into seeing our DS and being with him than to us!

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worridmum · 29/03/2017 13:05

you do know CMS actully costs both parties to use now (though the highest amount is the NRP its 20% for them and 5% for the RP ).

So by making it offical through CMS you are in effect going to cost him far more I would attempt to get it sorted nicely before then but if he doesnt play ball go through CMS

Cactus76 · 29/03/2017 13:06

Kiman - no, not revenge. Too much water under the bridge for that! And not my style. Honestly.
I can definitely make lists of what we spend on DS though. I think that would make it easier for exH to understand.

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kimann · 29/03/2017 13:08

Yes cactus - I think that's the best way forward. Make a list. This is what ds needs and the £250'is just not enough etc. Hopefully since exh has a good bond now he won't contest it and understand. I always find writing things down makes it so much clearer. Good luck Smile

Cactus76 · 29/03/2017 13:09

Yes, there are a number of reasons I don't want to go down the CMS route and this is one of them. I'm also not after every penny I can get, just a bit more balance and I also think there is something disrespectful about getting the 'authorities' on board when we could just have a conversation about it (which I'm really anxious about doing, but if I can get my head around whether or not IABU, I will definitely do).

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Quartz2208 · 29/03/2017 13:09

then approach it that way, all that matters is your DS when it comes to this. He should be paying more

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/03/2017 13:10

He's got a board level job. I'd have thought he earns a six figure salary. The more you post about him, the more I think I would just file a claim without letting him know. Because if you let him know, he has more time to hide his money. Whether you let him know or not, he's going to be pissed off if he was abusive to you as this is you exerting your authority.

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/03/2017 13:11

Cross post. I see you want to have a chat about it. I hope you get what you're looking for.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 29/03/2017 13:12

He's got a board level job. I'd have thought he earns a six figure salary

Not necessarily at all.

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/03/2017 13:13

Piglet. It's financial services isn't it?

Lemonnaise · 29/03/2017 13:14

I think Piglet and MadMags are possibly angry stepmothers who grudge their DP's having to pay maintenance money for their children. Their annoyance at you is quite weird.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 29/03/2017 13:16

I think Piglet and MadMags are possibly angry stepmothers who grudge their DP's having to pay maintenance money for their children. Their annoyance at you is quite weird.

Think what you like. You are however wrong.

Cactus76 · 29/03/2017 13:16

It will be certainly be approaching that. I know him. I know what he won't get out of bed for. I know the company. Yes, it's financial services, for wealthy people!

You're very right though dragon, he won't like it at all and can be very devious and manipulative. I'm actually shaking just thinking about it!

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Cactus76 · 29/03/2017 13:18

Lemonaise - it feels as though something is going on!

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MadMags · 29/03/2017 13:18

I think Piglet and MadMags are possibly angry stepmothers who grudge their DP's having to pay maintenance money for their children. Their annoyance at you is quite weird.

Really? Grin

Not that I owe you an explanation but:

a) My ds is in her 20s with a child of her own so we are past the stage of maintenance though we do still provide assistance if and when it's required.

b) I said in my first post that OP was NBU to ask for the maintenance.

c) It's begrudge. Not grudge.

HTH.

Lemonnaise · 29/03/2017 13:19

I bet I'm notWink

Lemonnaise · 29/03/2017 13:23

MadMags...You have the cheek to rip the OP to bits but I don't think you really have room to criticize when you're still bailing out an adult DD.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 29/03/2017 13:27

I bet I'm not

You are very very wrong. We have full residency of DSC as their 'D'M is only allowed indirect contact. Which she has chosen not to do. In fact she has told them she wants nothing to do with them ever again.

But hey what do facts matter Wink

MelinaMercury · 29/03/2017 13:28

You've stated several times in your posts that he has cut down his contact with DS through choice, didn't form an immediate bond with DS (it took me 3 years to form a proper bond with my son, it's not an instant thing for everyone and some find it hard to adjust!) insinuated that your DH thinks he's not doing enough to support your DS because he wouldn't take any job and generally made out that he won't even consider paying more without a fight.

Either ask or go to CMS but make sure it's in your sons best interests , not because your husband seems to have a serious grudge about your ex.

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