AIBU to expect people not to leave there seats because I am fat

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On numerous cases I get on a very busy train and I notice a vacant seat between two people, when I have done this I have had looks as if I have some contagious tropical disease. Or I have mega huffs and strange noises of discontent, or as happend today the person got up and stood until another seat was available . I am overweight, but you will catch it if I sit near you👹

Drusilla

Or objecting to BO is a challenge to a culturally imposed norm that champions our natural smells and useful bodily oils. Or something

And why is it okay for the 'right sized' people to touch others? If everyone keeps to their personal space then it's easier all round

brickit

Now that is funny! I am taking it in the spirit in which I assume it was intended, even though we people of size are so easily offended!

It's not about being fat it's about someone practically sitting on your lap

to brickit and Ed.

Do you also manspread, OP?

I know those seats. Three average size people barely fit.
You're probably squeezing one against the window or pushing the other out of the seat.

I get only slightly larger people overspill on individually marked double seats. With seemingly no awareness that they're doing it.

Why don't you sit in our couch at home mark how much space you take, then see how much bigger it is than those train seat spaces.

So in answer to some comments, I may slightly encroach

So why do you think that is?
Why are you encroaching onto another person's seat when you have only paid for one seat?

And there's. no 'slightly encroach' about it. You either encroach or you don't.

I have back problems so can't sit crooked on a seat, or perched on the edge as that is painful to me. I have to sit straight in the middle of the seat. I would get up and move from beside you if i needed to. Sorry, but it's not offensve but to meet my own needs.

Im reasonably small so even people who don't need to think they can encroach onto my seat. If it's a bloke manspreadkng manspreading or someone sitting at an inconsiderate angle i will tell them to stay in their own seat. If someone is overweight and clearly can't sit other than overlapping the seat I will just quietly move or stand (although standing when not walking os painful to me too).

Livia has anyone said it's ok for 'right sized' people to touch others? I think a lot of posters have said that they have difficulties with any stranger being in their personal space.

Oh ffs, people get a grip! It's likely got fuck all to do with weight,its simply that people like as much room as possible and if you try and squeeze in next to them they will move if they need to to get more space.

I hate crowded trains and buses and would rather stand in a corner than be pinned into a seat surrounded by people. I'd move if OP were fat, thin or anything in between.

Although in OP's case the epic attitude problem probably wafts out and makes the whole thing worse....

Fgs
I'm overweight, size 16 with a generous arse. I wouldn't put myself in a middle seat because I don't want to touch other people and they don't want to touch me.

I couldn't resist. There's half an inch space under my bed.

Like others I am very uncomfortable with men sitting so close they're touching me. And like many women have also been groped on public transport. As a young teen I remember pervy old men rubbing their legs against me on the bus. So yes I would move too. But as you're a man OP you probably have no clue that women have to experience that kind of harassment.

You mean to say I'm FAT? WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME!!!!

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Sorry OP, this must be kinda hard to read.

When I sit next to another regular sized person on the bus, there is no touching of legs, sides of bodies, arms. We're both in our own little bubbles.

When I sit next to an overweight person, they inevitably press up against me. I don't move - wouldn't dream of it - but the 'infringement' onto my seat is definitely noticeable.

I imagine that overweight people always touch the person next to them, so aren't maybe as aware that it's not usual for most people.

Well, you must be very big if you can't fit under there brick .

Oh ffs, people get a grip! It's likely got fuck all to do with weight,its simply that people like as much room as possible

Have you sat on those three seaters? Two overweight people might fit in.

I don't care where you sot but if you plonk yourself down and touch me I will huff and puff and move, whilst mumbling under my breath. If you buy a ticket, that doesn't mean you can take up more than one seat.
If you do then I'm afraid you need to do something about it. If you can't because of medical issues than I apologise, but that is a very small percentage of overweight people.

Oops.
Maybe this is one of those times when your own life experiences skew your point of view. I have difficulties with strong smell and strangers in my personal space so I will see that first in this situation. Someone who's fat and has had problems because of it will see that first and someone who's been groped on a train will see that first. It's all about perspective, innit.

Hell no! Can't stand strangers touching me!

There is a British personal space thing here too IME.

People really don't like being squished in, and trains are overcrowded and seats (if you can get them) small.

OP is NU for sitting down, but if people regularly move away or seem pissed off it's probably, as PPs say,that he's accidentally encroaching on their personal space due to his size.

I and don't see much "manspreading" on my commuter line, but people get very funny about rucksacks, bags, suitcases. And people get ratty too when others are taking up standing space, eg by not moving down corridors to let more people on.

The inadequacy of public transport infrastructure/services is the issue IMO.

I have the same right as anyone else to sit

This is disingenuous as well as false. No one has denied you a seat. According to you, at least one passenger got up and gave you more room to sit.