To hate women being called girls?

[skerrywind]

My mother does it constantly. She will talk of the "girl" who served her at the bank.

My niece shared this video which is great

So that would have to be 'good morning men' which also sounds wrong.

"Good morning everyone"? "Good morning all"? "Good morning"?

Innovative, I know...........

I can't imagine anyone saying 'the boy who served me at the bank', whereas 'the girl who served me at the bank' is normalised. 'lad at the bank', 'young chap' etc maybe, but in a work/professional context there isn't equivalence on this.

DH once - in the context of talking about the equality in his company with teenage DD and myself - mentioned 'interviewing a girl'. I said 'I didn't know you did youth experience stuff' - DD skewered him with a look and he had the grace to admit he'd got it wrong. He wouldn't have said he'd interviewed a boy. He'd interviewed a young woman.

It's a small but far too normalised example of not giving women the same status as men.

(I do 'guys' sometimes - I work for a mostly US team and it's not a gendered term there, just a casual group noun)

I just stick with 'morning' but I'm lazy. Interestingly 'ladies' isn't liked on MN either.

Yes!
I'd far rather 'morning girls' than 'morning ladies'.
I think it's a not wanting to grow old thing.

After all, nowadays we actually have teams of men and women working together. If only there was some way of saying good morning to tthem all...........

It's probably more likely that people walk in and say 'Morning!' anyway. No reference to boys/girls/men/women/guys or anything else.

I'm 30. I don't hate being called a woman, I know that's what I am, but I much prefer being called a girl! Woman sounds too grown up for me just yet!

Totally with you op! No, it's not the same as lads and men in the workplace are rarely patronised in the same manner.
Films/books like "girl on the train" and "the girl with the dragon tattoo" really piss me off too. It's not "BatBoy" or "Kingsboys" is it?!?! Just another way in which women's authority and capability in various settings is undermined.

"It's probably more likely that people walk in and say 'Morning!' anyway. No reference to boys/girls/men/women/guys or anything else."

Absolutely!

sparkling- is it necessary to use ladies/girls/boys at all when giving a group good morning?

If it is a mixed group what would you do?

There isn't a good group word for greeting or referring to women. 'Everyone' sounds impersonal, 'ladies' and 'girls' both offend, as do 'guys' and 'chaps' as they are male words. Had this discussion a while back with a groups of old school gate mums who meet regularly for a meal.

IMO it's also telling that "guys" is OK for a mixed group but if you called a collective mixed group "gals" they would think you were ridiculing them, or at least it wouldn't catch on!

The female equivalent of lad is lass. I think this may be regional though?

I also object to the praise "good girl".
I am not a dog which is always my response. Depending on how well I know the person I may also pat them on the head whilst saying good boy.

I have more serious things to worry about to be honest. I hate the word woman. (Which allegedly means "wife of man" from "wifmom")
I often say morning ladies when I go into work as most of my staff are around my age (53) but I say I'm going out with the girls but really it's a non event

In a shop once a staff member called his colleague over when I was having a problem with the serve yourself till. He said 'This woman needs some help'. Girl would have sounded equally wrong. It's all a bit of a minefield.

Yes of course and that may make a difference. No one here uses the word 'lass' which may be why I am about it not being used equivalently to girl. I think here it is.

No skerrywind as I said upthread it's more likely not even referred to.

"In a shop once a staff member called his colleague over when I was having a problem with the serve yourself till. He said 'This woman needs some help'. sad Girl would have sounded equally wrong. It's all a bit of a minefield."

'This customer needs some help'

Sparkling for me most of the time in those circumstances 'lady' is used.

Yep Rose. If I could go back in time I would correct him.

roseandrose- exactly!! What's wrong with customer?

Correct him . You are a woman aren't you?

"He said 'This woman needs some help'."

Would "This man needs some help" sound OK?

If so, what's wrong with " This woman......."?