To be insanely fucking angry at this reporting...

[WankingMonkey]

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/truth-female-sex-offenders/

Articles about record number of female criminals, lead with a picture of a transwoman. Rises in reported 'female' crime...ignoring that figures will be screwed from this day on given MALE crimes are logged as by females. And so on.

I am actually fucking raging about this and cannot vent anywhere except here as I would be deleted.

Surely noone actually thinks this is right?!

neighbouring war like tribe

maybe thats the difference between football crowds and racegoers - football supporters are divided into rival 'tribes'.

If testosterone played a role wouldn't there be higher numbers of females with pcos in prisions?? Don't think that makes sense.

The testosterone levels are nothing like even the low end of the male range.

The fucking world has gone mad.

Erroll I know they are not. But if it was solely to do with testosterone there would be a proportional increase in line with the increase.

I remember having read somewhere that the pathways for testosterone leading to male-type aggression are laid early, like, weeks after birth.

If that doesn't happen - and in females, it doesn't - then testosterone does not lead to male-type aggression levels later in life.

I remember having read somewhere that the pathways for testosterone leading to male-type aggression are laid early, like, weeks after birth

Doesn't that imply a biological difference in male and female brains which affects behaviour due to hormone levels?

Is violence and aggression learnt behaviour or innate behaviour due to biological brain differences? Or a bit of both?

I think this might be the research I remember, or close to it:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24600437

I am sceptical of research that looks for things such as toy choices, but apparently, they did not find any differences there, but did find differerences in prevalence of autism.

That said, while this is all very interesting, it doesn't really matter, as we already know males have a higher risk of offending than women, and that this does not change with gender identity.

Is violence and aggression learnt behaviour or innate behaviour due to biological brain differences? Or a bit of both?

Bit of both.
Male animals just fight anyone.

Males who are very intentionally only violent against women and children in environments where they know they will get away with it (domestic violence and date rape) are obviously not just following what some brain chemistry tells them to do - if they did, they'd behave the same way when there's danger of getting caught.

Male animals just fight anyone

Well-socialised (entire) domestic dogs don't.

Speaking of male animals, stallions are always castrated unless they are being kept for stud. Uncut stallions are extremely aggressive and, because of their size, strength and agility, they are very dangerous. Mating in horses can be pretty brutal.

WebSocket -
What aspect of yourself are you defending? 'Women' being a closed class?

Yes.
Women is a closed class consisting of people with XX chromosomes.

Do you have a problem with basic biology?

Stitchglitched:
There are specific consequences for victims that are unique to rape by a man
WebSocket:
That's a little misguided as you can only be raped by a man

And you cannot see how calling a rapist a woman starts to erode the definition of rape?

You really are not as intelligent as you claim you are if so.

Prawn while I understand your point that's a bit if a generalisation about stallions. In an ideal world all ungraded colts would be gelded, but they're not (that's a huge equine welfare debate in itself). While some stallions certainly can be aggressive (and natural mating can be dangerous) there are plenty who aren't and who are managed perfectly well round the international competition circuits and on the domestic showing circuit. Temperament is an essential consideration of breeding. Nobody should be breeding from a vicious angry horse! If only the half wits churning out poorly conformed cut and shuts would bloody listen! The worst one we've ever had to deal with was a gelding. Vicious bastard savages everyone, if it was a dog it'd have to be pts!

That's not true prawn, my mares sire still runs out in the herd with his mares and treats them wonderfully and fathers his foals rather than kicking them out.

Horses left to natural herd behaviour as they would in the wild show a great variety, mares often are the alfas even within domestic herds, as my mare is hypervigilant girl she is.

Horses left to natural herd behaviour as they would in the wild show a great variety, mares often are the alfas even within domestic herds, as my mare is hypervigilant girl she is.

Yeah, the difference with horses is that the stallions never managed to establish a patriarchy. I assume misbehaving stallions are kicked out by the mares in the wild.
(Though I've never understood while lionesses keep male lions around. The male might be stronger, but they're more. Perhaps the mane serves as armour against a quickly delivered bite to the neck.)