To be insanely fucking angry at this reporting...

[WankingMonkey]

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/truth-female-sex-offenders/

Articles about record number of female criminals, lead with a picture of a transwoman. Rises in reported 'female' crime...ignoring that figures will be screwed from this day on given MALE crimes are logged as by females. And so on.

I am actually fucking raging about this and cannot vent anywhere except here as I would be deleted.

Surely noone actually thinks this is right?!

[StrangeLookingParasite]

God this is fucking bullshit. I saw that DM story earlier, and didn't believe for a second that the perpetrator was actually female.

[Bambambini]

It's men who hate women will be having a field day.

[StrangeLookingParasite]

a female with a surgically constructed penis could commit rape
I'm not sure that would be possible.

[ChickenMe]

Legally it can be done Strange;
practically speaking I'm not sure of the logistics...how do these things work...but you could still rape or attempt with a soft penis so presumably it could be done.

Sec 79 Sexual Offences Act accounts for reconstructed parts.

I find it terrifying that someone with a penis is a "woman" and we aren't meant to be concerned about this. Although to be fair I wouldn't be conned for one second looking at either of them but still...

[VestalVirgin]

In a way, you people in the UK are lucky, as at least you now every single claim of a female rapist is bullshit, as the definition of rape requires a penis.

I think where I live, a woman putting a man's penis in her vagina without his consent (which realistically could only happen if she had him tied down or passed out drunk, and likely also drugged with viagra, but possible in theory) would count as rape, so people reading about "woman raped man" would think it was an actual woman.

I'll have to look up whether they do this utterly idiotic shit with recording male crime as female here, too, but I am not very optimistic.

They'll probably also record the FtT who are raped by men who hate gender-non-conforming women (or just want to rape some woman and are quite able to tell FtT are female) as male rape victims, which will be very useful for MRAs who want to make us believe that men are raped more than women.

MRAs will be so happy.

[Werkzallhourz]

This is getting very worrying. If newspapers are so willing to inaccurately report facts because of the reactions of certain lobby groups, then what else will they misreport?

It's beyond dangerous to so obviously telegraph such a shift, particularly at a time when "fake news" is such an issue.

I can't help thinking that this sort of thing provokes the kind of societal breakdown and mistrust that results in horrendous scenarios.

I am starting to think we are heading somewhere really dark. I can't believe there are so many people in positions of power that are so willing to allow such misrepresentations. Surely they must be aware of the potential consequences.

[mathanxiety]

Welcome to the world of Newspeak.
Next up - 'pregnant people', 'menstruating people'.

And following that - the word 'cis' which denotes the privilege of people who have always felt that their gender matches their biology. Lucky us, suffering FGM, honour killing, infanticide, far greater rates of poverty, fear of rape, the far greater risk of being killed or seriously injured by an intimate partner, coercion by state authorities wrt our clothing, and the list goes on.

In some circles is is considered 'triggering' for women to speak openly of pregnancy, childbirth, miscarriage, endometriosis, ectopic pregnancy, abortion, PMT, PND, vaginal rape, breastfeeding, periods and other matters related to our biology.

The potential consequences = the erasure of women as a class under the law. We are already witnessing concerted efforts to silence women who have the temerity to stand up and fight against this.

We need to fight the transagenda regardless of the fascism that we face both in RL and online. We especially need to expose the folly and challenge assumptions of the handmaidens of the patriarchy everywhere we see them trying to shame us for standing up for women and girls - sadly there are 'feminists' out there who believe reinforcing the gender norms that have kept us back for centuries is women's work.

We need to educate ourselves - Janice Raymond and Sheila Jeffreys are gender critical feminists. Maybe there are posters here who can supply other suggestions for us to start our education process?

Janice Raymond (from Wiki):
Raymond maintains that transsexualism is based on the "patriarchal myths" of "male mothering", and "making of woman according to man's image". She claims this is done in order "to colonize feminist identification, culture, politics and sexuality," adding: "All transsexuals rape women's bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves.... Transsexuals merely cut off the most obvious means of invading women, so that they seem non-invasive.
There are those who see this calling a spade a spade 'hate speech'.

Sheila Jeffreys (again from Wiki):
In 1997 Sheila Jeffreys published a paper that stated that "“transgenderism” is... deeply problematic from a feminist perspective and that transsexualism should be seen as a violation of human rights"[11] In 2012 she wrote in The Guardian that she and others who "criticised transgenderism, from any academic discipline," had been subjected to internet campaigns to ban their speaking because of alleged "transhate, transphobia, hate speech". She writes that the "degree of vituperation and the energy expended by the activists may suggest that they fear the practice of transgenderism could justifiably be subjected to criticism, and might not stand up to rigorous research and debate, if critics were allowed to speak out."[12] Jeffreys is co-author with Lorene Gottschalk of the 2013 book Gender Hurts: A Feminist Analysis of the Politics of Transgenderism

We need to challenge the use of the word gender when what is meant is sex. 'Gender' is all over forms nowadays, and it should not be.

We need to look at the damage to gay and lesbian rights and mental health when children who in another era might have been accepted as gay are now sent for therapy to gender dysphoria specialists.

We need to support writers who challenge the trans agenda by means of letters to the editor and commenting when comment is invited.

Above all, we need to challenge and criticise the model of masculinity that makes it possible to conceive of women as 'people who are not men', and to make it impossible for anyone who is effeminate in dress or speech or manner to conceive of themselves as men and be accepted as men.

When we admit men to our public loos, our sports teams, our showers in schools and gyms, our changing rooms in schools, our fitting rooms in shops, our prisons, our homeless shelters, our psychiatric wards, our pre and post op wards, our rape crisis groups, our domestic violence shelters, we are allowing toxic masculinity to dictate what a man is and what women are. We are allowing them to say that women are a group consisting of everyone they say is not a man. We are reinforcing rigid gender roles, which have disadvantaged us in every way from time immemorial.

[rumbelina]

What is an MRA?

[mathanxiety]

And we need to stand up for the most vulnerable of women whose safe spaces are under ferocious attack - homeless women, women who mentally ill and availing of psychiatric services, women fleeing domestic violence, women in prison: the most voiceless of women in other words. They are in the front lines of all of this, along with girls in school.

[mathanxiety]

MRA = Men's Rights Association/Movement.

They are patriarchy deniers and assert there is a war on men being waged by 'feminazis'.

[Vegansnake]

Oh. My god monkey,I read that article and thought I had woken up on 1april.this has to a joke,or at least a reporting mistake...has anyone contacted the paper reporting the article.perhaps the reporter struggles to see the difference between male and female.

[Lessthanaballpark]

YANBU. It's absolutely ridiculous to start a article about the rise in female crime with a picture of a criminal who is a man FFS!!

Women will now be responsible for the crimes men commit.

Men have been the main perps of crime forever yet no one writes an article on the gender angle. But now "women" are doing it too they're so quick to point out that women are doing it too.

What can we do?

[KateDaniels2]

Wtf is going on?

I read the daily mail one today. No mentiom that the woman charged with rape has a penis.

What terrifys me is that that rapist will end up in a womens prison.

I feel like this is all some sick joke.

[CaveMum]

On Twitter the author is saying that The Telegraph chose the photo to go with the article and that her statistics do not contain crimes committed by trans women.

Bloody disturbing all the same and a slippery slope IMHO.

[webSocket]

@WankingMonkey

cannot vent anywhere except here as I would be deleted.

True. The venom spewed towards men and trannies is frowned upon in general society as opposed to the warm welcome it gets on MN.

I genuinely want to know why you are "actually fucking raging"? Because the criminal as called a woman and not a trans-man? What effect does that have on you and your life or any aspect of it? Because a Telegraph reader is going to come to you and start quoting statistics you think are incorrect?

[Catsize]

In 16 years as a lawyer, I have only represented one woman charged with a sexual offence. Oddly, it was rape - she physically assisted the commission of the offence by her partner. In general, it is very rare to find a woman charged with a sexual offence in court. I wanted to do a dissertation about sexual offences committed by women at university and was told there wasn't enough material.

[NotYoda]

CaveMum

Yes. That article did strike me as the paper having tacked something onto the beginning of her article. I hope it was that, for the sake of scientific research. OTOH, it's bloody depressing that a quality newspaper would do that.

[NotYoda]

P.S.

'quality' Newspaper

Like the rapist was a 'woman'

[NotYoda]

Great post math

[KateDaniels2]

that her statistics do not contain crimes committed by trans women.

She knows that as fact? Did she query it? 'When it says 'crime committed by women, how is 'women' defined?'

And how are crimes commited by transwomen, recorded? Does she know this?

[Lessthanaballpark]

"Because the criminal as called a woman and not a trans-man? What effect does that have on you and your life or any aspect of it?"

Of course it affects us! Because we all live in hope that one day some high up man will look at the figures and say "hang on, men as a group commit a disproportionate amount of violence, I wonder what's going on there...!"

I mean they do it for Muslims and black people. When a criminal is Muslim or black the internet is littered with comments on the disproportionate violence committed by these groups.

And also because "but women do it too" (aka. "The Diet Coke argument") is a tactic lovingly employed by MRAs when trying to deflect from the gendered nature of sexually exploitative advertising and violent crime.

HTH

[bsbabas]

I dont get to be a mum i tried to commit suicide and now my daughter lives with my mother

[treaclesoda]

It's no shock that mumsnet is one of the few places we can discuss these things without being deleted or ostracised. Because it's one of the very few places where women are allowed to have their say, where men's views don't take priority.

[HelenaGWells]

My main concern is that if they are convicting violent trans females as females where are they locking them up?

Trans issues aside people who are biologically male are physically stronger than women. Transitioning doesn't alter this fact. If these people are violent that's not going to end well for the safety of women in prison.

A massive reason for sex segregation in jail is to protect women from men due to their size and strength.

[Applebite]

If even the telegraph and the daily mail have signed up to this, where the fuck will it end?