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Calling all Spartacus! Jenni needs us!

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iloveruby · 06/03/2017 21:33

Am shamelessly posting in AIBU for traffic.

On Sunday Jenni Murray from woman's hour wrote an article saying that transwomen aren't women.

Full article here: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-females-can-never-be-real-women-says-jenni-murray-ht0xhcvrs

In light of the inevitable backlash that Jenni will / is receiving there are a number of efforts to show our support for her.

One of which is co-signing a letter to the BBC. The letter is below and anyone who would like to add their support please message me with your name and you will be added.

"There will undoubtedly be calls for Jenni Murray to leave her position with the BBC following her article of 5th March in the Sunday Times about trans women.
Whether her comments were ‘hurtful’ as Stonewall claim is irrelevant. Murray was bravely sharing her experience as a woman, a feminist and a broadcaster who has navigated a male-dominated society to enjoy a successful career.
Of course trans women have their own hurdles, but those who have spent their formative years as men will not understand the impact of the casual and institutional sexism that women are born into. That some trans women feel justified in wanting to silence Murray speaks volumes about the reality of the different ways men and women are taught and expected to behave.
It is perhaps noteworthy that Murray has made these remarks at the age of 66 with a robust and respected career to bolster her. How many others share her thoughts but are prevented from speaking out for fear of causing offence and sparking a hostile reaction?
To date the BBC has been remiss in its duty to 'educate, inform and entertain’ regarding the ideology behind gender identity. It seems the lobbying activities of groups such as Stonewall and Transmedia Watch have stymied debate, and vilified those who do not share the same viewpoint.
We stand in support of Jenni Murray, and in support of free speech. Please do not cave into the demands to end Murray’s career. The BBC has few older women in positions of seniority, and it would be to the detriment of both audiences and the reputation of the BBC if you were to remove her from post.
Yours"

I am not the author of the letter - that is an amazing women on facebook called Maggie who has organised this.

If anyone would like to add their name directly via facebook let me know and I will send you the link.

I am Spartacus! I am Jenni!

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BevGoldbergsSister · 07/03/2017 23:20

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Jux · 07/03/2017 23:45

I've PMed you for a link/adding to the name list, anything/everything!

AnotherSpartacus · 08/03/2017 08:09

I've PMed, too.

DianaMemorialJam · 08/03/2017 08:19

IS there a fb group or something I'm missing out on??

RTKangaMummy · 08/03/2017 10:48

I HAVE HAD A REPLY FROM FEEDBACK WANTING TO TALK TO ME BUT I AM NOT BRAVE ENOUGH

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON RADIO 4?

PM ME AND I WILL SEND THEM THE MESSAGE

I know I am shouting but I want the message to be noticed please don't get angry

DianaMemorialJam · 08/03/2017 10:52
Shock
DianaMemorialJam · 08/03/2017 10:53

I would but I doubt I would be very eloquent. I'm rubbish at wording this stuff in real life.

BevGoldbergsSister · 08/03/2017 11:02

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DianaMemorialJam · 08/03/2017 11:04

Bev you do it!!!!

BevGoldbergsSister · 08/03/2017 11:05

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RTKangaMummy · 08/03/2017 11:06

No not yet

RTKangaMummy · 08/03/2017 11:06

Today

DianaMemorialJam · 08/03/2017 11:07

Bev do it you will be awesome

RTKangaMummy · 08/03/2017 11:07

@iloveruby @BevGoldbergsSister do either of you want to do it?

Datun · 08/03/2017 11:23

Whoever does it, (I'm not brave enough), I will promise to phone in. What time is it?

Datun · 08/03/2017 11:26

RTKangaMummy

What have they actually asked you to talk about, and who else is on? Do you know how it is being framed?

Whatthefoxgoingon · 08/03/2017 11:29

Emailed. I get way too ranty on radio Blush

BevGoldbergsSister · 08/03/2017 11:52

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RTKangaMummy · 08/03/2017 11:55

It is about Jenni it is being recorded today over the telephone but I am not brave enough

TumbleTrans · 08/03/2017 12:21

I sincerely hope you get to know some transwomen personally

I realise this was directed at the OP but it made me Grin

You see, toconclude, not only do I know several trans women, I am also a trans women myself and I am very intrigued by this:

Yes do let's make a stand against those yukky trans people.

God, MN apparent CONSTANT official sanctioning of this hatred makes me barf.

I am yet to see any of this so called hatred or anyone making a stand against us yukky trans people despite the numerous complaints that there is so much of it. However if you have seen any could you please direct me to it so I can address it?

BevGoldbergsSister · 08/03/2017 12:24

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TumbleTrans · 08/03/2017 12:25

Seriously why won't anyone show me where all this hatred and transphobia is?

If you think that you are defending a specific group of people from bigotry and someone from that group disagrees with you about there being any bigotry, the polite thing to do is to engage with them.

I am half tempted to start another thread specifically to ask for links to all this transphobia that apparently occurs on here so often but I get the feeling no one will show me any on there either.

TumbleTrans · 08/03/2017 12:27

I would love to do a radio phone in but I'm not quite as good at wording things in person and end up stuttering a lot, forgetting what I want to say and making a fool of myself.

TumbleTrans · 08/03/2017 12:27

When is this phone in though? Is it happening right now?

BevGoldbergsSister · 08/03/2017 12:34

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