Transing a 4 year old

[ShadowChancellor]

On Monday, all the children at my kids school were taught about being transgender because the parent of a reception kid have decided that X is actually Y and are now sending their kid in as the opposite sex and have changed their name.

According to my kid they were shown a video that was all about how if you were a boy and liked girl things and girl clothes you were a girl and it was all very positive.

No parents were told before this happened. We only found out when the kids came out of school on Monday and told us.

AIBU to a) think that transing a kid at 4 years old is more to do with the parents not liking the fact that their kid prefers girls toys to boys toys and b) that the other parents should've been told before they showed our kids this film and promoted it all in school.

Its caused a lot of confusion with the younger kids who think you can change whether you are a boy or girl just by wishing it and didn't mention at all all of the problems that it can cause.

It's a good point, actually. Hmm. I can think of quite a few books with fairly nerdy boys, but they all seem to be strikingly talented either musically or some other way, which probably just buys into another stereotype.

I wonder if Jacqueline Wilson has anything useful? (Definitely vet them first, as there are some real shockers out there)

Im ASD so it seems completely alien to me, as it does to my 2 kids, who are both pretty non conforming. we dont even see it as non conforming, we just do what we do.

@NettleTea same here for me. Looking back over my childhood and even as an adult, many things I've done / do are "non-conforming" but I never ever thought about it that way until I started reading about the trans stuff. It was just me being me. So many people are too eager to put a label on themselves nowadays IMO, they want to mark themselves out as different. And they seem to think how they look and dress is really, really important in that it must show the world who they are inside, if you know what I mean. It's really image driven, superficial stuff.

Actually I was just reading this, which ties in well I think: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4274396/Man-spends-50-000-transform-genderless-ALIEN.html

Actually, despite the likely plethora of mental health issues, I think he looks quite interesting. But I'd bet my right arm I'd be bored shitless if I had to have a conversation with him. When self obsessed people actually confess to being self obsessed, you just know you're in for a yawnfest on an epic scale.

I also wonder how he is going to feel in 20 or 30 years' time.

That video would imply at four I was a boy.... that's a little twisted.

The alien man says he wants his genitals removed because he doesn't need them 😳 even if he has his penis removed, he's still going to need a hole to wee out of. I really hope he doesn't find a surgeon to agree to that. It would cause all sorts of practical problems, for a start.

Surely no surgeon would castrate a perfectly healthy man??

Why wouldn't they? If it's gender-affirming bottom surgery?

Surgeons who perform GRS castrate perfectly healthy men all the time. That's what GRS is.

I've just realised my first post doesn't make any sense anyway. If a surgeon does MTF surgery, with all the attendant complications/problems there's no reason why they shouldn't do surgery to remove the genitals full stop. It sounds different, but in fact is it ethically any different? I don't think so.

Alien man?

Bragadocia; why do you think so many teachers are women?

I'm very glad that I don't have primary school aged children anymore. I would find it very hard if my small children had to pretend that Billy is now a girl. So much of this involves others confirming the delusions that males can become females because they say so.

I'm speechless at the poster who claims she would treat her son like a dog if that's how he identified.

It sounds different, but in fact is it ethically any different? I don't think so.

Indeed. I would even assume that alien man will have less problems. He will still have a hole to pee out, the same way women who had their genitals mutilated because of FGM have.
FGM, in its worst form, is exactly that; the removal of all outer genitals.

He will also not have a "neovag", i.e. a random hole in his body that will have to be penetrated to counteract the body's attempts to heal it, and be cleaned because dirt accumulates in such an artificial hole.

If anything, going along with alien man's request would be more ethical than performing gender reassignment surgery on a male.

(Not sure what problems FtT transsexuals face after surgery)

Oh gosh, the cleaning had never occurred to me - despite how much I like to squeeze gunk out of old piercings!

Yanbu

Alien man would have a no cavity srs. It is a thing

What other people do with their children is their business but I would be absolutely livid if my children had been taught that message. How positively damaging, this isn't 1950, I want my boys to be able to get excited about butterflies and play with dolls without feeling as if their masculinity has been threatened ffs.