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She's not a toy!

331 replies

imisschocolate · 24/02/2017 08:29

I have a 2 week old DD. i don't understand why visitors insist that they have to have a "shot" when they visit.

Yesterday my baby was very grouchy and unhappy and DH and myself were having trouble settling her. We had a visitor who happened to arrive just as she was calming and falling asleep on me. Right from start of visit i said that as she was so unhappy i didn't want to risk distressing her by passing her around. This meant i had 2 hours of comments along the lines of "if I'm not getting a shot i might as well just go". (Which actually would have suited me).

I wanted to scream shes not a toy and I'm not going to make her cry just so you can hold her. This person has visited a couple of times since she was born so not like hadn't held DD before.

Also, she kept hinting i should wake my sleeping, grouchy baby to put on a wee pink outfit she brought just so she could get a picture. DD hates getting dressed/undressed which visitor knows. My DD is not a doll that you can play dress up with!

I don't think its unreasonable to not want to hand over a baby to someone for a "shot" when it will upset them. I also will not dress my baby up in an outfit just so you can get a picture.

Rant over

OP posts:
Rugbyplayersarehot · 24/02/2017 19:07

I absolutkry would love a baby moon to be the norm and a good campaign for hospitals and HV.

littleladybird14 · 24/02/2017 19:17

I had the same experience last year when my DD was born and i posted a similar thread on here . Its soooo annoying and rude!
We visited my DH auntie who had her side of family round (no relation to us and only know to say hello to if that) DH passed DD to his auntie for a hold and within minutes it was 'who wants a go?!', honestly who wants 'a go?!'. I was fuming as i saw my 6 week old passed to all sorts of randoms, one of which purposely squeezed her hand to wake her up FFS. I was so angry but couldnt say anything, in hindsight if i had of known what might of happened i would of had something prepared in my mind like she needs a feed or something or worn a baby carrier.
Absolutely fuming though, ive not seen the relatives since and neither has my DH as he too wasnt happy. People are just rude sometimes when it comes to babies, it becomes a very selfish thing in some minds where they disregard the needs of baby or mother . Angry

Rugbyplayersarehot · 24/02/2017 19:29

quark sorry I am sure you are not personally upsetting anyone but do you have a baby?

Honestly i remember the hoards of visitors turning up annanoumcef and wildly excited to hold my babies and I hated it.

I couldn't establish breastfeeding as who wants your male cousin gawping at your boobs trying to latch on. You are bleeding and vulnerable. You don't want a bloody party going on around you and I remember not being able to eat a bloody meal as people kept turning up.

It's not right and it's cruel. It's rude and it's above all selfish.

Just leave the mum/dad and bushy to bond and hold your fire.

A baby moon is lovejy.

If I as a gran can hold back from my grandchild random family members can too.

Baby isn't a new toy to play with.

Rugbyplayersarehot · 24/02/2017 19:30

Bushy Grin baby

Rugbyplayersarehot · 24/02/2017 19:31

Yes little agree

Bluebellevergreen · 24/02/2017 19:40

in most cultures when a baby is born that you are excited to meet it?
Well in my culture you will get the whole family including children coming to the hospital at once, grabbing your baby as you are bed bound and unable to move and they will keep on coming and interfering daily.

Luckily I dont live there anymore and DH and I have made it clear that
A) nobody is to know when I go on labour
B) it is just us and baby for AT LEAST 2 weeks.

Both these things supported by my mental health visitor because guess what! Postnatal depression on both mum and dad can be triggered by any of those things some people deem as their visitor/family rights

ImYourMama · 24/02/2017 19:43

Rugby you're my hero. My DD is 5 months old, when she's grown up and having children I hope I can emulate your approach Flowers

quarkinstockcubes · 24/02/2017 19:44

Yes rugby I've had 4 babies Smile As I said my family are generally very supportive and respectful, with mine my DM always had a day when we went to her and everyone came round to see us, that way no one saw my messy house I could go up to bed if I wanted, DM made everyone a cuppa and they all got to see the new baby. We just assumed it would have been the same for this baby as they didn't say anything about not seeing anyone for several weeks. If we had have been forwarned it would have been less of a shock.

BaymaxismyHero · 24/02/2017 21:23

Not sure what all the fuss is about. What's a little cuddle with a baby in the grand scheme of things??

People are moaning that relatives want a cuddle. Really???

LoveMyLittleSuperhero · 24/02/2017 21:51

But don't ask them to whip you up a quick lasagne when they came to see your new baby confused

Really??? My mom and a couple of my friends moan that I don't find them things to do when they come! In fact when I handed my mom dd for a cuddle she asked if I wasn't sure I wouldn't rather she cooked a meal, did some laundry or washing up instead while I held her. She was though, I think, pleasantly surprised when I said I definitely wanted her to hold her for a while so I could shower. That was the biggest help she could be though. She was my birth partner for my section and was actually the first one to hold DD so they have a pretty good bond and I knew she was the only one other than me and DP, who was working, that could calm her for long enough.
DD doesn't mind being passed round for short periods of time and will giggle and smile at people, but once she is unsettled it has to be me, dp or my mum (who lives two hours away). Once she is upset it has to be me, and if she's feeling poorly it has to be me. If anyone was so rude as to demand my child off me when I knew it would upset her they would get very short shrift off me!
As for the comment about "free babysitting" my mom lives a two hour drive away and I don't drive so that wouldn't be of any use to me to expect them to do anything of the sort. My mother has on the other hand asked if I could possibly let her have dd to stay when she's older in the holidays because she is looking forward to spending time with her. Surely that's how most grandparents feel about their grandkids? not that they are a chore!

Bluebellevergreen · 24/02/2017 21:56

Baymax I suggest you read about the 4th trimester and also you dont judge mums that dont want their babies passed around for fucking bloody cuddles.

Are we not adults????!! "I want a cuddle" piss off

Astro55 · 24/02/2017 22:19

the visit is an opportunity for the guest to see the baby, not to do the dishes or the cooking

Shocking!

Guest? So here is a mum probably exhausted from a long labour or recovering from surgery and you want to be treated as a guest?

If they'd had a knee operation would you rock up and demand a cuppa?

When friends hane had babies I would pop into a bakery and buy sandwiches drinks and cakes for lunch - for the new mum - not for us to share -

I would offer to her a cuppa and if baby was asleep - take the opportunity to have a catch-up -

Bluebellevergreen · 24/02/2017 22:28

astro you seem like a good friend Smile

EmeraldScorn · 25/02/2017 02:21

I can completely understand not wanting to unsettle the baby to play dress up for someone's photo opportunity etc and I agree with you as you're 100% right, they're wrong.

From a personal perspective though; one of my sister's had her first baby last year (and we were all stupidly excited, we love babies in my family) but her husband is an only child with no nieces/nephews, quite stern parents and no experience with children.

Anyway, my brother-in-law announced to a room full of people about a month before my sister was due that "no women will be holding the baby"; We were all pretty annoyed about this, as was my sister who quickly informed him that her sisters, adult nieces and mum would be holding the baby when the time came.

He felt that the baby would become "confused" and "not be able to bond" with her mummy because other women were having an occasional hold of the much loved baby.

My point being that he was being beyond precious and completely unreasonable. I love my sister to bits and the baby is in part an extension of her and therefore we love the baby just as much but her husband felt it was necessary to impose a barrier between us and the baby.

Fast forward to now and the baby is nearly 8 months old, she's happy and thriving and we all regularly visit but my sister's husband actually hates to see us hold his daughter and at times when they've needed someone to look after the baby (When he's at work and my sister has an appointment etc) my sister has arranged for one of us to babysit and then his mother has arrived unannounced to oversee our child minding and the whole time has acted like "judge&juror", giving out orders like aggressively demanding that the baby is not picked up if she cries.

The thing is with babies some people get very territorial and insist on doing things their way and everyone wants to act like an expert on what's best for the baby without considering what her mum thinks is best first - If you don't want your child held for a genuine reason (like the ones you mentioned) then you are within your rights to say so and you should definitely stick to your guns but if you're intentionally being difficult (like my brother-in-law) for no reason whatsoever then you are being unreasonable.

My sister loves that we spend time with our niece, she also knows that her daughter is in safe hands; If the baby is unsettled when I'm there I'll often see to her to allow my sister to rest or get on with a task, if she needs a nappy change, a bottle or just some attention I will do it and I don't need to ask (My sister would be furious with me if I asked if I could hold my niece) - Dynamics are different in every family and you just need to find what works for you and lay those boundaries.

Don't be abrupt or spiteful about it though (I'm not saying that you have been).

Paninotogo · 25/02/2017 02:55

My babies were the most easy-going, placid, content little things who would quite happily be passed around and dressed up. Maybe your guests had babies like that so are not used to more demanding babies?

Crispmonster1 · 25/02/2017 03:08

Just tell visitors if DD is overly handled she becomes difficult to settle and you don't have the energy for that. Not to mention infection risk etc.
I can't wait to have others hold my DS to remember what it's like to have 2 arms!! But I have refused so many visitors the Ines that do come are friends and I can be honest with them!

Bluebellevergreen · 25/02/2017 04:15

are not used to more demanding babies?
Hmm Panitogo may all our babies be so perfect that we dont have to upset visitors with their demands.
FFS

Paninotogo · 25/02/2017 04:40

Well, it would be nice. But uptight people seem to have uptight babies. Weird.

Bluebellevergreen · 25/02/2017 04:50

Or maybe some of us accept and love our babies as they come, without feeling the need to pass them around to play dress up Hmm
Maybe we care less about what people think of us and more about providing a nurturing 4th trimester.

Babies can't be uptight. They are babies.

Paninotogo · 25/02/2017 04:56

Fourth trimester. Grin

Bluebellevergreen · 25/02/2017 05:11

What is funny about that?

Paninotogo · 25/02/2017 05:17

Erm. TRI-mester

Ineke · 25/02/2017 05:27

If they really want to give you a break then suggest a cup of tea, they make it, or could they clear the dishes, or bring some groceries you need or hang up the washing or Hoover the carpet or etc etc. all while you sit on sofa with feet up cuddling baby.

Bluebellevergreen · 25/02/2017 05:30

Hmm still not funny Confused

Oh! You don't know what this is then? Ahhhh it is very useful concept to understand newborns' needs.

Surprised you don't know about this though Hmm

Paninotogo · 25/02/2017 05:34

I have heard the term, usually from people that buy amber necklaces and call age-old practices by new wanky names, (baby wearing, baby led weaning, etc) it is the actual term that is ridiculous. If you are dividing that period of time, it would not be in that manner. Did you not go to school?

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