...to ask you to support this event?

[Niamer]

www.uniteforeurope.org

• we are about to spend £120 billion extricating ourselves from the EU. That money is desperately needed in health and social care sectors.
• many Leave campaign promises, voted for in good faith are untrue
• millions of people directly affected by Brexit were not allowed a vote.

-the referendum was advisory. To have been binding, a supermajority would have been needed to make such a huge constitutional change.

• Brexit is likely to result in the permanent break-up of the UK.
• we are turning our back on our friends and allies of 40 years
• EU citizens in the UK are uncertain of their rights and in many cases feel unwelcome.

I don't like particularly enjoy going to London, I hate crowds, but I HAVE to be at this march. Please consider attending and sharing this event. We are all victims of a fraudulent campaign and are facing a Tory hard destructive unopposed Brexit. I will NOT let this happen to my children without a fight.

Sally So the bunch running the economies of Greece and Spain, or the race relations of Hungary and Poland are your 'go to' leaders?

we should decide to put up with also being governed by the EU, who we don't like either (by we, I mean leave voters, obvs)? I'm not following your logic

We are not governed by the EU, we are part of it. Even TM says we have always had sovereignty.

Yes I have seen TM's poll ratings . IMO she is a fearsome and inflexible leader, determined to deliver what she says, at all costs.

What I find SO hard to understand in all of this is what do people dislike so much about the EU, they are prepared to damage our economy and our reputation irrevocably by leaving it. Or is it that people were just swept along by an emotive campaign and haven't really grasped what we are about to do?

It's been voted on. I voted stay, but it's done now. Let's get out and move on. Otherwise we'll waste lots of time and money discussing it over and over again and again......

But we need to discuss it over and over again, whether we stay or go, because nobody knew what kind of Brexit we were voting for in June. For me that's part of the point of the march - that, if it is made clear that 65 million do not support a hard Brexit, the government will have to reconsider what they are leading us towards. If they were to propose the Norway model, as many of them suggested before the referendum (and indeed Boris Johnson was still promising the single market after the referendum), then I'd regret it, but accept it.

release the bats - no - things weren't great under Cameron and Osborne at all - and let's not forget who led us into this sorry mess in the first place. My thinking is that many people seem to have voted leave in the belief that life post EU will somehow be better, but we are in the hands of people who have demonstrated time and time again that they are not interested in making life better for the ordinary people of the country. They are in charge of the biggest political and economic decision since the Second World War, and all of us will be hugely affected by it. But the wealthy are the ones who will still manage just fine, if things don't go well. Their track record is not good. If Johnson wants to open up trade with other continents, such as Africa, he now has somehow to persuade African leaders that he never really meant it when he was saying that African nations would be better off if Britain were still an empire. The man's been sacked from two jobs for lying already. I don't believe that Hunt will look after an NHS that will work best for ordinary people, because of his track record (under Cameron as well as under May).

Maybe I've been lucky, but I can't think of a single time when an EU directive has had any kind of negative impact on my life. All of the problems that I deal with - such as an overstretched NHS, underfunded schools for my children, a paltry pay rise in comparison to the MPs or to senior management in my line of work - are due to decisions taken by the Tories about where they want to distribute the money of one of the wealthiest nations in the world. The vast majority of the children in the schools in my area are British, as are their parents, so it's not that immigration is causing huge delays in our area for the NHS etc. As Niamer says, we never lost our sovereignty - even May had to admit that.

No - I wouldn't particularly like the Greek or Hungarian government, but I can't see where I was suggesting that they would be my 'go-to leaders'.

This is what Boris Johnson said about our former colonies in Africa. It worries me that he is in charge of the Foreign Office at a time when we need international goodwill more than ever:

"Heaven knows what the Foreign Office has cooked up for Blair, or quite how this British prime minister will choose to break the winds of change. But we must hope, for the sake of candour and common sense, that he does not blame Britain, or colonialism, or the white man. The continent may be a blot, but it is not a blot upon our conscience. The problem is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge any more."

The problem is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge any more

Good lord!!

And no sally i couldn't see in your post where you said that the greek or hungarian governments were A ok

but it's done now

It's not though, thats the point. Now is exactly the time to be heard, before it is too late.

Another ICM poll (and one for which the full data is available rather than just a newspaper write-up).

www.changebritain.org/dominic-raab-mp-blair-lost-touch-british-people

New polling by ICM has found that 68% of voters want the Government to get on with implementing the result of the EU referendum, compared to just 15% who disagree. Significantly, more Remain voters (42%) agree than disagree (33%). This is a clear shift in public opinion. In December 2016, 54% of people wanted the Government to get on with implementing the result of the EU referendum, compared to 20% who disagreed. The shift is particularly dramatic for Remain voters – in December 2016, 26% wanted the Government to get on with the job compared to 40% who disagreed.

ITV poll tells quite a different story:

www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2017-02-17/brexit-how-would-you-vote-now/

There 69% of people are in favour of Remaining.

There 69% of people are in favour of Remaining.

Sorry but that is not a proper poll.

I'm sure most people are aware that there is a world of difference between a poll run by a respected professional polling organisation (like ICN, YouGov, Ipsos Mori) where the respondents are selected to give a representative sample of the population, and a poll where people click on a website.

Obviously even the first type are not 100% reliable, but they are certainly much more meaningful than the second.

And just another point on polls - although they are not 100% accurate, the fact that many different polls all paint a similar picture adds to their credibility (and similarly one wildly outlying result should be treated with caution).

If I was asked whether I wanted the government to just get on with it I would possibly say yes as we are currently just in limbo, treading water waiting for information. I want us to move in any direction at this stage.

However, if the poll said would you prefer the government to amend the terms I would also say yes. If the question was would you prefer mps to have freedom to vote as they wishes I would say yes. If the poll was do you think the referendum is economic suicide I would say yes.

In short, it's a very black and white question for a very complex matter. The march is not about stopping Brexit it's about so much more than that.

To clarify, I am not suggesting that people shouldn't demonstrate or that there shouldn't continue to be discussion about the type of Brexit. Everyone is entitled to try to get their views across and to campaign for what they want.

I think the relevance of the poll data is to show that the narrative that the government are ploughing ahead with Brexit against the majority of the population's wishes is just not true.

If the question was would you prefer mps to have freedom to vote as they wishes I would say yes. you mean how they are told to vote.

Well, if polls aren't to be trusted, and god knows they've got it badly wrong before, it's worth looking at the results in recent local council elections where the Lib Dems and Greens have made significant gains, especially the Lib Dems.

*If I was asked whether I wanted the government to just get on with it I would possibly say yes as we are currently just in limbo, treading water waiting for information. I want us to move in any direction at this stage.

However, if the poll said would you prefer the government to amend the terms I would also say yes. If the question was would you prefer mps to have freedom to vote as they wishes I would say yes. If the poll was do you think the referendum is economic suicide I would say yes.*

I agree Amymay. Big difference between wanting them to get on with it and actually supporting or thinking that leaving is a good thing. Uncertainty is not good for the economy.