...to ask you to support this event?

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www.uniteforeurope.org

• we are about to spend £120 billion extricating ourselves from the EU. That money is desperately needed in health and social care sectors.
• many Leave campaign promises, voted for in good faith are untrue
• millions of people directly affected by Brexit were not allowed a vote.

-the referendum was advisory. To have been binding, a supermajority would have been needed to make such a huge constitutional change.

• Brexit is likely to result in the permanent break-up of the UK.
• we are turning our back on our friends and allies of 40 years
• EU citizens in the UK are uncertain of their rights and in many cases feel unwelcome.

I don't like particularly enjoy going to London, I hate crowds, but I HAVE to be at this march. Please consider attending and sharing this event. We are all victims of a fraudulent campaign and are facing a Tory hard destructive unopposed Brexit. I will NOT let this happen to my children without a fight.

Sorry, bit rushed, but you get drift I hope!

Also intrigued as to why you are so sure we would have joined the Euro if we had remained?

Amymay see above. Too busy at moment, to elaborate more but will try to come back when I get some time!

Ok thanks Louisianna

I am scottish and i dont want to leave the uk.

I will not be supporting this march because i believe in democracy. The uk voted and the result was Leave so i will support this.

Please protest, a vital right. Although there is a march every saturday in London so dont expect the rest of the country to notice.

It was always going to be close. We could have had it the other way and be staying in due to 37% of the electorate.

Pity about the third that didn't bother. And a few hundred Londoners who couldn't get home before 10pm didnt make a difference, even if they all had voted remain.

If we had voted Remain there is no question that come the next few years the UK would have been forced to join the Euro, too.

This simply isn't true. The UK had a permanent opt out of the Euro so could never have been obliged to join it. And given the obvious problems with having a joint currency but separate legal and financial frameworks, and very different economies that require different monetary and fiscal policy (clearly demonstrated by Germany versus Greece etc) giving up the pound would never have been considered or even suggested.

The UK also had a large rebate on its EU contributions so it was paying less per capita than some EEA nations, a permanent opt out of Schengen, and several other vetoes preventing it having to integrate more than it chose to/ was beneficial. In short, the UK had a better deal than any other EU country has. Hence the utter bemusement as to the UK blaming its own internal issues on the EU and committing this act of pointless self-harm.

will be there

if it went to vote again it would be the same outcome give it up for gods sake and stop wasting your time!

Don't' you get tired of being wrong?
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-eu-referendum-held-today-again-remain-win-leave-lose-uk-poll-a7576981.html

This simply isn't true. The UK had a permanent opt out of the Euro so could never have been obliged to join it. And given the obvious problems with having a joint currency but separate legal and financial frameworks, and very different economies that require different monetary and fiscal policy (clearly demonstrated by Germany versus Greece etc) giving up the pound would never have been considered or even suggested

Interestingly, this rather illustrates my point regarding the "voting Remain = voting for the status quo" assumption. To extrapolate from the permanent veto negotiated 25 years ago, that that opt out would still have been set in stone forever, given where the EU is, makes no sense to me.

In 2020 all countries joining the EU will be required to join the Euro - which makes sense,. a complete political union and United States of Europe can't be achieved without total financial union. So, had we remained, come 2020 of course we too would have had to deal with the question of the Euro. We could not have been the only country allowed to veto it, bend the rules etc or be semi detached at that point, as in order for EU to survive now, the other states must not be allowed to think they too can break the Union.

Having had a referendum and voted remain, our position and bargaining power in EU would have been weakened too. Much easier to try to impose Euro, then.

Interestingly the poll Narky linked to also gives a figure of 51.3% not wanting a second referendum.

And more interestingly

A majority (52.6% to 47.4%) say border control is more important than access to the single market

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/britains-brexit-regret-survey-shows-9805513

Louisianna that last post of yours is really silly I'm afraid. The UK's opt-out of the Euro was enshrined in law, the EU could not possibly have revoked it. New countries joining the EU have been required to sign up to eventually joining the Euro for years now but there was never any suggestion that this should or could be retrospectively applied to the UK. There is no 'United States of Europe' nor will there ever be, this is the stuff of crazy conspiracy theorists. Many other countries in the EU want it reformed and are not signed up for ever closer union so your suggestions will simply never come to pass. The UK should have worked with these allies to achieve reforms from inside. Other countries are working for this now, but their voices are weakened by what the UK has done.

Well, ok- clearly you believe what you are saying very strongly, and I'm not really into wasting hours refuting it, regardless of the shedloads of evidence regarding intended political + financial union (if you prefer the phrase to USoE) , available from respected sources**.

**(or crazy conspiracy theorists as you like to call The FT, Bloomberg, The LSE, Stiglitz, Verhofstadt etc etc ;) )

Will of the people?

My Arse.

Most change of that immensity requires more than the merest hint of a majority, as Mr Toad pointed out, with much gold plated vim and vigour.

I'll be there, OP! Euro sceptics moaned for the best part of forty years, they didn't 'pull together and heal divisions'.

I would attend but am already booked to go on the national NHS protest march and demo on 4th March: keepournhspublicgmcr.com/2016/11/14/national-nhs-demonstration-4th-march-2017/

two in one month si too much for me, sorry

Yay! I'm deffo going - it's utter madness, insanity leaving the EU. It's going to hurt those hardest that can least afford it and damage our country and the stability of Europe for decades. I really didn't think there was a chance that the outcome of the referendum would fall to Leave or I would have been doing this before the vote. Never marched before, never felt this fired up about anything before. I'm so mad at the self interested multi billionaires behind this Leave campaign and the rise of facism we are seeing. So hell yes I will be there!

I'm not sure how immigration will decrease to be honest. Half of migration is from outside of the EU and we have full control but it has not gone down despite The Tory government saying they are going to 'tackle migration'. However I do agree with you I don't think migration has ever done us harm. What has harmed workers is exploitation by unscrupulous bosses and erosion of workers rights. I bet the tories that voted Leave can't wait to launch this GIG economy they keep banging on about once they can do away with all the protection the EU gives.

What is so terrible about a United States of Europe anyway?

I'm starting to think I have an awful lot more in common with Europeans that I do with about 17 million British people.

But I am just as British as they. And thy didn't fuck off when bitching about the EU for forty odd years so I'm not going to fuck off anywhere either.

I think I will march. Just to show the government that we are not behind their hard Brexshit.

I really didn't think there was a chance that the outcome of the referendum would fall to Leave or I would have been doing this before the vote

Tbh this really annoys me.

Getting people to campaign was really hard. We struggled here.

Now the vote has happened and the result was leave people seem to suddenly want to do things.

Prehaps one of the things that needshe to be thought about is apathy when it actually matters.

And democracy means one can say what one likes and peacefully protest.

Fully support the march, & its message. And even if I didn't, I'd still be fine for you to ask your question. Interesting that your simple question seems to have lifted a rock and got some Daily Mail readers in a tizz to you OP

I think they feel very anxious about questions being raised about Brexshit.

Mostly because they know it doesn't hold water for the British economy. It just doesn't make sense.

We will be there as a family and it's my birthday so I'm ultra committed. We want our country back.

The only country doing well out of the EU is Germany.