...to ask you to support this event?

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www.uniteforeurope.org

• we are about to spend £120 billion extricating ourselves from the EU. That money is desperately needed in health and social care sectors.
• many Leave campaign promises, voted for in good faith are untrue
• millions of people directly affected by Brexit were not allowed a vote.

-the referendum was advisory. To have been binding, a supermajority would have been needed to make such a huge constitutional change.

• Brexit is likely to result in the permanent break-up of the UK.
• we are turning our back on our friends and allies of 40 years
• EU citizens in the UK are uncertain of their rights and in many cases feel unwelcome.

I don't like particularly enjoy going to London, I hate crowds, but I HAVE to be at this march. Please consider attending and sharing this event. We are all victims of a fraudulent campaign and are facing a Tory hard destructive unopposed Brexit. I will NOT let this happen to my children without a fight.

Article from today's Guardian, sorry did I say Guardian, Daily Mail obvs.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/14/leave-voters-london-voted-remain-eu

Thanks to everyone who replied. Of course posting in AIBU I didn't expect to have an easy ride. I wish there was much more open discussion every day about Brexit, because each and everyone of us is going to be affected and now is the time to be addressing the huge number of issues we are facing as a nation.
Great to hear so many people are exercising their democratic right to protest. See you there .

CallingGloria, we were the 5th economy in the world.

We weren't doing too badly.

We're now the 6th. France has overtaken us since the Brexit vote.

It's quite a meaningless measurement of wealth anyway because it is just looking at total size. Wealth per capita is a far better indicator of living standards and on that measure the UK measures up far worse, and worse by the year.

I'll be there. I don't accept the result. There was far much misinformation and people didn't know what 'leave' actually meant as it wasn't defined.

The right thing to do is to have a second referendum once we know what the terms of leaving the EU are.

Whilst Churchill was a fan of a united Europe, he was much less convinced about the UK being a full member.

What do you think the 12 billion dollars (120 billion in todays money) for the Marshall plan was all about? A united Western Europe, that's what, bankrolled by the US, leading to decades of unprecedented financial growth and the ECSC which in turn led to the EU.

Easy for you all to forget now what the whole point of it was, and how wonderful it was for everyone.

*I'll be there. I don't accept the result. There was far much misinformation and people didn't know what 'leave' actually meant as it wasn't defined.

The right thing to do is to have a second referendum once we know what the terms of leaving the EU are.*

So you don't accept a democratic vote and you want a second referendum?!?!

What's you name, Nicola Sturgeon?

What if the majority of those who voted out march on London demanding a third referendum, or a forth or fifth?

Where do we stop?

I live in London, have no love for the Tories, am pro immigration, educated and work in the City, yet voted out.

There is a whole world out to trade with, not just one continent.

March if you want, that's your right, but don't be condescending to those of us who voted out.

If you want to moan, save it for those who abstained from the ballot box.

I will see you there...thank you for reminding me xx

So how many that are marching campaigned during the build up to the referendum then?

I'm pro-immigration, anti- racist, pro-democracy, leftie, have friends who voted the same as me of different religions, races, ages, all educated, some 2nd gen immigrants, some first, all of us voted out and not one believed the NHS bollocks. Good luck on your march.

Why did you vote out then?

Some of your facts are dubious to say the least, and I voted remain. No one knows how much the uk will have to pay, that's what the government will have to negotiate. You are right about the leave campaign promises being untrue, but it wasn't a general election, the leave campaign wasn't the government so there was no way they were going to be acted upon. Who are thes million of people denied a vote? Ex pats? Why should they get any say what happens in the country when they have left it. It's true that the referendum was advisory, but I don't understand this supermajority bollocks you are going on about. There is no constitutional requirement for a majority of the countries of the uk for a referendum to be successful, as there is in the constitutions of Canada and Australia. Indeed if parliament had ignored the referendum merely because it was advisory, what do you think would happen at the next GE? The leave voters would be outraged and probably vote in UKIP and god help us if that happened. I also doubt that brexit will cause the breakup of the uk, no matter how much the SNP shitstir. No matter how much they want to stay in the eu, with the uk out of the eu, the majority of Scotland's trade would be with England wales and ni i.e. outside of the EU, so it would disproportionately damage the Scottish economy to secede. We are turning our backs on friends and allies, but we turned our backs on better allies when we joined in the first place. The French are our least trusted allies, Portugal Spain, Greece and Italy are jokes mainly. And there's nothing to say we can't be friends with them when we leave. I voted to remain mainly because I thought leaving would damage the economy and cost millions of jobs. Better the devil you know and all that. But if the eu had been more flexible and the tories hadn't won the last election, we probably wouldn't be leaving

What do you think the 12 billion dollars (120 billion in todays money) for the Marshall plan was all about?

Creating a market for the US, strengthening their interests against the 'communist threat', including via economic threats against communist and socialist parties and nationalisation aka, essentially bribing.

Hopeless.

• No one knows the exact cost of Brexit, but it will be A LOT.
• Why should expats have a vote? My 82 year old aunt paid taxes here for 42 years before retiring to Spain 20 years ago. She moved to Spain due to the freedom of movement an EU citizen is allowed . Brexit has a huge effect on her life - I don't understand why she cannot say if she would like to keep her rights as an EU citizen . Similarly the 3 million EU citizens contributing to our society here - Ok to do our dirty work but not to have a say on the organisation we are all part of?
• break up of the UK . We'll see how Scotland and N Ireland deal with what the gov are dishing up. They don't seem to feel they're having their voices heard.
• advisory, supermajority etc. If you are really interested to know what I'm talking about here, Ac grayling explains well why we've been robbed.

YANBU I'll be there, already have my flags. Have been writing to my MP regularly, leaving the EU is not something i can support.

If anyone had wanted to change the referendum to alter a simple 50% majority, they could have done. See the 1979 Scottish referendum, which had a simple majority of yeas, but less than 40% of the electorate, so was no.
Voter eligibility was the same as GE, so not chosen specifically for the referendum.

I'll be there at the March with my children and grandchildren. A weekend in London, my first ever protest march and it's to celebrate my 70th birthday. The EU has been to me and my family one of the greatest blessings life has brought us. Being born in 1947 I remember only too well what life was like before we joined the Common Market.

Can I ask, why don't those of you who are going to "protest" put your money where your ideal are? Instead of walking about in London, show some real committment and leave this country and move to the sainted Europe if you think it is soooo good?

Clearly you have no idea or sensitivity to understand or empathise with the 3 million EU Citizens many of whom represent the brain drain from Europe. They are our doctors, surgeons, dentists, vets, lecturers, professors as well as the many who do the jobs that British people don't want to do. They work hard, pay taxes and contribute to what was our vibrant economy before Brexit. They weren't allowed to vote in the Referendum either and now find themselves in this deplorable situation. I apologise and I am ashamed that my country is treating you so badly. All I can say is history will record these events as far from glorious.

The march is racist and white because it is aiming to retain a white European trading and movement state with significant barriers to entry to non-white people outside the EU.
Brexit will enable the UK to trade and exchange labour with all countries across the world and not keep Africa (and black people) down with the current barriers to entry, particularly in agriculture.
The EU is fundamentally racist.

This.

It is not only stark staring bonkers to call a continent "racist" it is also a racist thing to do in itself.

" show some real committment and leave this country and move to the sainted Europe if you think it is soooo good?"

And if the EU was so bad why didn't you move previously? Such a ridiculous and short sighted comment. People are fighting to remain because they love this country and are scared that leaving the EU could damage it. Their families and livelihoods are here. Not to mention the fact that we don't know how possible it'll be to live abroad now. People have a right to object to such massive changes to their lives without being told to move.

"The march is racist and white because it is aiming to retain a white European trading and movement state with significant barriers to entry to non-white people outside the EU."

?? What about non white people within the EU? What about white people outside the EU? This claim is just bizarre. I honestly don't understand. The EU is Europe, not Africa, Australia etc?

OP... You have my full support. Some of these comments are just hurtful for the sake of it and I hope you haven't taken any if it to heart.
Thus kind of hurtful behaviour coming from Those who think brexit will somehow magically improve our country is laughable. The only thing it's doing is dividing us... And we all know what happens once a government divides it's people...