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AIBU?

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WIBU to this rude man on the train?

329 replies

Tabbylady · 01/02/2017 21:10

Sometimes I commute by train. Today coming home I was at a table with a woman & baby opposite me and man next to me. I've seen the man a few times- it's a small train and we obviously do a similar commute.

I had smiled at the woman and commented on her cute baby before the man got on. The woman started to breastfeed her baby and almost immediately the man started making disgusted noises and told her to "go and do that in the toilet". She seemed really shocked/speechless.

I said excuse me but she isn't bothering me and I'm opposite her, pointed out that it's illegal to stop someone from breastfeeding in public now, and invited him to go and eat his smelly egg sandwich in the toilet instead. He wasn't really having any of it and said she was flaunting herself, to think of the effect it might have on "those boys" (a table of oblivious teenagers halfway down the train). The woman was now in tears. I'd had a bad day at work and lost the plot a bit.

For context, I work in criminal justice. I was working on my laptop on a presentation on sex offenders I'm due to do, where I have some expertise. (OK to do on a train, it's in the public domain and no graphic images etc!) but did notice him peering at my laptop screen.

I told him, very loudly, that if he was unable to cope with the merest sight of breast in a completely appropriate, public context and was finding himself uncontrollably aroused then I was seriously concerned that he was some kind of sexual deviant and should seek help immediately. I did this in a very earnest, straight-faced, concerned-for-your-health and totally PA way. People nearby noticed, and laughed. He was all flustered, went scarlet and buried himself in the Metro.

I got off at the same stop as the woman and apologised to her as I did not want to have embarassed her. She said it was ok and that she wasn't embarrassed, nice to have been stuck up for etc so I know I did broadly the right thing there.

But did I take it too far with the man? He was being really awful, but I was pretty rude and he was clearly embarrassed. I'll probably see him again on the train. Do I need to apologise to him too??

I'm imagining him on oldmansnet complaining about this nasty random young(ish) woman who accused him in public of being a sex offender!!!

OP posts:
EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 01/02/2017 21:41

Don't you dare apologise!

Fallonjamie · 01/02/2017 21:41

You said all that? I must get on really boring transport.

FreedomMummy · 01/02/2017 21:42

Great job! I can never think quick enough in those situations so I think you did an amazing thing, both for the mum but also to make that man think.

cherrycokehead · 01/02/2017 21:43

Bravo. Don't you dare apologise!

LordRothermereBlackshirtCunt · 01/02/2017 21:44

LordRothermere Oh hadn't thought of that- the temptation is so strong! Should I carry some of the literature I provide to my clients in my handbag and slide it across to him should I ever see him again...?
Yes, I think you absolutely must! It would be a great act of public service!

cherrycokehead · 01/02/2017 21:44

Ha Empress, just noticed you said the same, I wasn't copying Grin

sotiredbutworthit · 01/02/2017 21:44

You are amazing!! Don't you dare apologise! Serves the silly sod right!!

Tabbylady · 01/02/2017 21:45

Oh how lovely Cguk81 ! That has cheered me right up.

To be fair I told DH when I got home and he said "I'd have just told him he was a fucking mutant and and that burd to crack right on!" I am hopeful that he too says nice things to BF people on trains, but perhaps not just "crack on"!

OP posts:
EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 01/02/2017 21:45

No problem Cherry, I think everyone's in agreement here!

GallivantingWildebeest · 01/02/2017 21:46

Don't apologise! Hopefully it will make him think twice about saying anything to bfing women again.

I do think you went too far in insinuating he was aroused by seeing a bfing woman - perhaps you should have concentrated on the fact that boobs are primarily for feeding, not sexual gratification, and he should realise that - but hey ho. Don't apologise. Silly old fart. He must have known he'd make the mum feel bad. That's not kind.

Mimilondon39 · 01/02/2017 21:46

You did brilliantly. Well done. Please do not apologise. You stood up for someone who needed your help. We should all be like you xx

arethereanyleftatall · 01/02/2017 21:48

Brilliant, well done you!

SickRose · 01/02/2017 21:48

Oh wow. I love this. So much.

Tabbylady · 01/02/2017 21:51

To be fair I am not normally quite so eloquent at short notice, but I do a lot of public speaking and essentially subjected him to the "how to explain your serious concerns to a client" bit of the presentation I was going over in my head Blush

goes off to practice other potential speeches for possible situations

Maybe I should practice one for when no one will stand up to let the person using a zimmer sit down too?

God the train can be miserable at times.

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Gooseygoosey12345 · 01/02/2017 21:52

Well I think you're bloody brilliant and maybe that old git will sort his attitude out! If not at least that mum felt she had some support, and we all need a little of that sometimes. Would have 100% done the same though less eloquently and probably with more swearing

f83mx · 01/02/2017 21:53

well done, well done, well done. I think when people are that rude directly at you, you can often freeze so for you to be able to speak up/challenge etc - if i was the BF'ing mum i would have been ridiculously grateful

iogo · 01/02/2017 21:53

You legend. Wine Flowers CakeHaloGin Wine Flowers CakeHaloGin

MollyHuaCha · 01/02/2017 21:56

Well done OP, I applaud your bravery and creativity. CakeStar

My DCs are teens now but I still remember the embarrassment I felt when a group of old women complained about me in a half empty hotel restaurant. I can't believe there are still people that need educating about this.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 01/02/2017 21:57

You rule! Grin

amritsky · 01/02/2017 21:59

YABFB
(you are being f brilliant)

pasbeaucoupdegendarme · 01/02/2017 22:00

You're a star.

I have been involved today in a row on fb about this and I just cannot understand for the life of me this apparent obsession with women "flaunting" themselves while feeding.

Pettywoman · 01/02/2017 22:01

Don't you dare fucking apologise. He should be the one doing that and I bet it hasn't even crossed his mind to. You're falling into the women should be agreeable peacemakers trap and be sorry if they make a scene above their station. You showed him up brilliantly and he deserved it.

RustyPaperclip · 01/02/2017 22:02

Well done OP, bless you for confronting his prejudice. I bet the woman with the baby will never forget what you did

middlings · 01/02/2017 22:03

Well done! That's bloody brilliant.

Gin, Wine, Cake

RustyPaperclip · 01/02/2017 22:04

Sorry, I didn't mean 'bless you' to sound condescending. I just think people can be extremely rude when commuting or on public transport and we need more people like you to remind people to be nice and considerate

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