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AIBU to take my baby girl out of nursery after seeing her 'key person' push a crying baby twice?

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Snf13 · 30/01/2017 22:25

My little girl is 10 months and started nursery only a month ago! She had a hard time getting settled and I sometimes found her shaking and in tears when I was coming to get her in the evening. Something that had never happened before. She always was a happy baby!
I put it down to her not being used to new people, other babies, noise, a different routine etc.. but something strange was that my girl was friendly and holding her arms to other staff members except her key person at nursery. I found this woman quite rude and cold and she was making me uncomfortable but I decided to give her the benefit of the doubt.
So, after a month, my LO was finally getting settled, but...this morning when I brought her to nursery, I caught the care giver red handed: she was sitting on the floor staring at a crying baby (8 months old) and she pushed him quite violently with her hand, he fell backwards and then found his balance back sitting, but started screaming (more of being scared than in pain I think) and she pushed him again! She had no compassion at all, and just looked like she just didn't care/was annoyed at his crying! It lasted a few seconds and then she saw me. She wasn't even apologetic or flustered. She just stood up and started getting the breakfast ready. She even had some sort of defiant look in my direction and didn't say Hello or Good morning as she usually does! She just shouted at another staff member to pick my daughter up from my arms! It was like she was pissed off I had caught her!
So I debated all day about what to do and felt sick in my stomach thinking she might be abusive to other kids, and my LO, and tonight, I said that my girl was not going to come back.
When she asked why, I said that I was looking for a new nursery ( I didn't want to confront her as she scared me) and she didn't probe more. It was obvious that she knew why I was taking my girl out, and the only thing she said was: 'You know you have to mention it 4 weeks in advance and we'll keep your payment for February?'
She didn't even fake she was going to miss my LO (she fakes 'loving her' and 'her being so cute' every evening)
I took my girl and said I was going to come and pick her things tomorrow. I intend to come and report the incident to the nursery's director at the same time. However I am conscious that there was no one else who saw this woman's behaviour and it is her word against mine!

Sorry for the long email, so all in all, my questions are:

  1. AIBU to take my LO (who just settled in) out of this nursery by fear she might not be cared for properly (or abused)?
  2. AIBU to report this incident/this woman to the director?
  3. Should I inform social services or is it too much?

Thanks for your advice/help!

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GiraffeAHolic · 31/01/2017 14:54

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Derlei · 31/01/2017 14:59

Omg BrokenHeart Sad you must have been inconsolable. I would want to go back and kill the person who did that!! Were there any mental scars? I know kids are resilient and they don't remember things at that age but I'm so scared that something similar would happen to my DS while in nursery and that he would bear the mental scars of it for life. I already feel guilty about going back to work.
I'm so sorry that happened to your DD

Snf13 · 31/01/2017 15:01

Hi everyone. First of all thank you to all of you who clearly understood my situation and were very supportive. It meant the world. As I mentioned, having no support network here, I needed help, and I am happy some of you were very helpful.
This has finally been resolved! I just got a call from the nursery. The issue was investigated (with other staff members apparently and the KW themselves), the child's parents were informed, the police has been involved, the KW reported and suspended. The manager mentioned that she would like me to keep my daughter in the nursery and reassure me that this person would not be working there anymore. She also mentioned that the police might want to speak to me at some stage.
Thank you again for all of you who advised and didn't judge. I know I didn't do the right thing by not confronting her on the spot. I was too stunned, had no other childcare arrangement and couldn't NOT go to work and again very scared that if I confronted her and 'pissed her off' she would be violent on my girl. I also didn't know how I would have reacted. I knew that if I reacted I would have gone hysterical and that would probably not have served my 'testimonial' and made me look like a crazy person.
So here you are. This woman hopefully will not work in a nursery anymore. Thank you again mums!

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Sleeplessinmybedroom · 31/01/2017 15:01

I hope you get answers from the nursery soon.

Derlei · 31/01/2017 15:04

Well done OP, so happy for you and your DD. Glad the police are involved, that should hopefully ensure she never finds herself employed in another nursery again. You've potentially saved a lot of children from abuse Flowers

2014newme · 31/01/2017 15:08

You do still need to tell ofsted
#stuckrecord

TheDisreputableDog · 31/01/2017 15:17

Well done OP, sounds like you are doing the best for your little girl.

Hopefully the nursery worker will not work with children again.

MissJSays · 31/01/2017 15:19

thank god! You still need to make sure ofsted has been informed so they can carry out all of their checks. This is really important! Quite often they will visit the setting to make sure all is in order.

MissJSays · 31/01/2017 15:20

And yes, she will never be able to work with children again. It would show up on her DBS. Then again anyone who actually wanted to work with children, would never harm a baby.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 31/01/2017 15:22

The nursery is legally obliged to report to OFSTEAD and the LADO themselves.

What is the likelihood that they would tell the police but not ofstead?

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Snf13 · 31/01/2017 16:22

BrokenHeartDog: this is horrendous!!! OMG! I'm so sorry. I hope your DD is okay. The fact that she still remembers it when she was so young shows how traumatising this must have been for her. Who would punch a baby!??!?!

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2014newme · 31/01/2017 16:30

Surely it would only show up on dbs if she had a conviction?

Do accusations show?
As it stands she can walk into another nursery and start work tomorrow. You are all naive if you think it's,as simple as accusation made=can't work in a nursery again.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 31/01/2017 16:40

You seriously make a six hour round trip each day? I don't believe a word of it hmm

Some people do, I know 2 that do and dh did it for years before we moved.

Glad you reported her OP.

IrishTwin · 31/01/2017 16:41

Well done. So sorry you have had some very hateful remarks in a place you have come to for support and advice. You are doing the very best you can with the resources you have. Sorry you are merely a mortal being unlike some on here!

EweAreHere · 31/01/2017 16:42

I'm glad the police are involved.

What she did is abuse. She has assaulted a BABY for crying.

Your baby's behaviour changed dramatically after being around her.

She needs to be held accountable for her behaviour.

Knittedfrog · 31/01/2017 17:15

Well done, feel proud that you have prevented further abuse.

awishes · 31/01/2017 17:23

I have been on a child protection course this week- report her immediately. It is everyone's responsibility to safeguard the vulnerable.

embo1 · 31/01/2017 17:38

So glad they listened to you x

Newbrummie · 31/01/2017 17:46

I nearly called the police over my DD being given a 15 minute time out age 2. They dumped her crying outside just as ex arrived and he stood and watched to see what would happen. There was murder when the manager found out. You have to report this

Newbrummie · 31/01/2017 17:48

Sorry just seen the update, good job OP

notyourmummy · 31/01/2017 17:49

Any response from the nursery yet?

awishes · 31/01/2017 18:01

Sorry I posted without seeing your update.
Good for you for doing the right thing 💐

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