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Theresa May - opinions

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AnnoyedinJanuary · 30/01/2017 19:58

So over the weekend so so many decent people spoke out about Trump and the Travel Ban from countries with largely Muslim populations (though not those where he has business deals or hotels)..... I'm furious with the actions of the UK PM who instead of standing firm for values and morals seems to be cosying up to this monster and trying to get trade deals going..... is it me or does anyone else think if the UK had remained in the EU - we'd now have David Cameron joining the voices of the sane to condemn Trump. Is this what the UK has now become...... I've seen tweets of all the anti Trump visit marches and am so proud of those people getting out to have their voices heard...... and the online petition..... again British people standing up like they have done so many times before. Does anyone else think also that Theresa May is leading this country down the wrong path and that in this instance regardless of what you think about Brexit it would be better for us to be in the EU? Didn't Cameron warn of this also?

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Elendon · 31/01/2017 10:34

She is high in the polls atm and so are the Tories, it's a win, win situation.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 31/01/2017 10:38

Why is calling an early election her escape Elendon? Assuming you think she'll be re elected, she still has Brexit and Trump to see through. They won't disappear.

Aeroflotgirl · 31/01/2017 10:40

You think Corbyn is better, no! They are all inept, I think Theresa May is the better on to lead this country!

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 31/01/2017 10:48

If she called an election labour will lose seats to the Tories and maybe a few to the LibDems May has just got her party into line not sure she will risk more coming into parliament that may cause her problems especially when there is no need to

The Labour Party have three years to get their act together we need to start now

I disagree she isn't in a difficult position the nature of the job is managing your party and leading your party along with being PM and then having to deal with a situation that has never been tested before and on top of that dealing with a tyrant that upsetting will damage your country

I wish labour had a leader I feel could manage that I don't like her stance but in the situation she is in she is so far managing it well will she back down over the state visit I absolutely think she should will upsetting Trump's ego be damaging to the UK yes I believe it possibly will be luckily I don't have to make that decision

leddeeburdee · 31/01/2017 10:51

I'm disappointed in her. I thought she would be a reasoned voice that would provide balance to the Brexit process given the divided nature of the country she inherited. Instead she gives speeches saying that she has the 'The strength and support of 65 million people willing us to make it happen' to steamroller a hard Brexit which is another case of #alternativefacts based on the actual referendum result.

Now she's effectively endorsed Trump by rolling out the red carpet to him despite his appalling behaviour and actions in the past week. Her refusal to speak out against racism and xenophobia is a slippery slope in my opinion, based on historical precedence.

PantyLiner · 31/01/2017 11:03

If May was to hold a general election she would undoubtedly be elected as PM. She has no opposition. Here in Wales we have always said "Put a donkey up as candidate for the Labour Party and Wales will vote for him." Well they have and we won't.

The only opposition May has ATM is UKIP. Think about the consequences of that!

Corbyn needs to stand down if his party has any chance of running this country. (And saving the NHS).

The bloke has been a lifelong eurosceptic. It was only when he saw his chance to become leader of the opposition did he suddenly become a staunch remainer. The bloke can't stand by his own principles......

I expect when the UK lefties upset Trump enough for him to turn his back on us everyone will blame Brexit again and again and again.

May is doing a tough job and she is doing it in the best interests of her country. I have never voted conservative but in this climate May gets my vote.

Sunnymeg · 31/01/2017 11:07

I think she does her job as Prime Minister, but keeps her own personal views under wraps. She obviously didn't think much of Cameron and Osborne, but kept quiet at the time. I suspect that her refusal to condemn the travel ban straight away was due to concerns about how it would be received by a public, many of whom are concerned by immigration. Many UKIP supporters would think the ban was an excellent idea and doubtless so do many conservatives. We have to deal with leaders who are far less palatable than Trump. We need to have a good relationship with the USA. We need the best access to their market that we can get. Inviting Trump for a state visit was a masterstroke and shows she can play it canny when she wants to. She appealed directly to his weak spot, his vanity.

SleightOfMind · 31/01/2017 11:19

Completely out of her depth.

JamieXeed74 · 31/01/2017 11:26

TM seems to be doing a good job. We want a trade deal with the American people, Trump is just a bump in the road. I wonder how many people would be protesting if they lost their jobs because we couldn't do a deal with them. This is what people voted for.

A sky poll yesterday found only from 49% of the UK disagrees with Trump, which means 51% agree or couldn't care what he does. I think if a different president had done this temporary travel restriction with a better press release, it wouldn't have been a such a big deal.

MirabelleTree · 31/01/2017 11:41

I would have a bit of sympathy for a Teresa May had she not fuelled the post Referndum divide with all her whinging liberal and citizen of nowhere shit. Also had the first Tory party conference under her leadership not sounded like something out of 1930's Germany that would have gone a long way.

Madbengalmum · 31/01/2017 12:05

Sunnymeg and jamiexeed74, couldn't agree with you both more.

bibliomania · 31/01/2017 12:21

Only because of the pig-headed stance the government has taken on Brexit. Everyone is making out that TM has no choice here. That's rubbish. She has deliberately led us along this path. She could negotiate a perfectly affable, sound economic relationship with Europe even while leaving the structure of the EU, if she would stop banging her "immigration is the root of all evil" drum (a la Trump).

Grace, I completely agree with this.

I didn't like her as Home Sec. I did think she was the best of a bad lot when she became PM - for a few minutes, it felt like there was an adult back in charge. But no, true to form, she's not a million miles from Trump in her "keep out the foreign hordes and all will be well" rhetoric. She's better versed in politics than he is (who isn't?) but they're both aiming for popularity by denigrating immigrants.

Peregrina · 31/01/2017 12:25

Op how do you feel about her NATO coup - getting Trump to admit he is 100% behind Nato - pretty huge issue is an understatement right now?

Wait to see what Trump does with respect to NATO before getting excited about her 'coup'.

What can she do. Its best to have him as a friend than an enemy.
Until she can no longer appease him enough and he turns on the UK, and then what will she do? As the old saying goes, "With friends like that, who needs enemies?"

maggiethemagpie · 31/01/2017 12:30

The trouble is, even if she stays 'special fwends' with him he's going to end up shafting her/us sooner or later when he doesn't get his own way. So then she'll be shafted by Trump and she'll have lost the confidence of her own country - lose lose.

I understand she's in a difficult position but it was a serious error of judgment to invite him on a state visit so soon. She can't rescind it or she'll piss off trump but by not rescinding it she's pissing off her own people and losing credibility fast.

I do wonder how Cameron would have handled it, not that I think his politics were great but as a professional, he was a lot more in control.

Thakita · 31/01/2017 12:33

I'm very impressed with her so far. She's behaving like a business person. She talks straight to the point rather than waffling about like her predecessor.

I knew she'd be the right person to deal with Trump - he will respect her professionalism.

She's thinking about the UK.

Peregrina · 31/01/2017 12:59

She is a Remainer (as am I) who's been assigned the unenviable job of helping us Leave.

She was not "assigned" the job. She couldn't wait to throw her hat into the ring in the PM contest. A wiser person, given her overweening ambition to be PM, would have realised that this wasn't the time to make her play for the job. Better to wait until she could be a successful PM than rush in now and go down as a failure.

I knew she'd be the right person to deal with Trump - he will respect her professionalism.

Ha, ha. Trump respects no one.

Topseyt · 31/01/2017 13:08

Who says Trump will respect May? Trump respects only Trump.

OlennasWimple · 31/01/2017 13:17

Unfortunately international diplomacy often involves holding one's nose and doing deals with people who are unpalatable.

KeyserSophie · 31/01/2017 13:17

Like when? She's 60 years old. She wouldn't have got another chance.

I think she's playing a bad hand fairly well. Now isn't the time to be pissing anyone off. The hand thing.. not ideal but diplomatically preferable to snatching her hand away.

We're clearly seeing the end of the post-war consensus and it's very unclear how the US-china-Russian relationships will shake down in the next 3-5 years. It's like some terrible game of shoot-shag-marry.

Brexit was a pisser but tbh I doubt the EU will still exist in 10 years if the current trends towards isolationism continue so.....

Peregrina · 31/01/2017 13:49

Like when? She's 60 years old. She wouldn't have got another chance.

Two years down the line whenever who took over made a mess.

A wiser person would realise that sometimes, painful though it can be, ambitions have to remain unfulfilled. As Heseltine did, who equally had a desperate ambition to be PM.

derxa · 31/01/2017 13:50

I like her. I think she's doing the best she can in difficult circumstances.
this ^

If you think you can do better get yourself elected to parliament. I prefer her to some of the smarmy snake oil salesmen/women in all the other parties.

SapphireStrange · 31/01/2017 13:50

She has zero integrity.

Peregrina · 31/01/2017 13:52

Now isn't the time to be pissing anyone off.

But by all means piss of the other EU countries, on which you depend for getting a good deal.

whatsthepointofmorgan · 31/01/2017 13:54

I like Theresa May, I think she secretly despises trump and his ways but let's face it, we do need that trade deal with America, she's doing what she needs to do for the future of our country & got a minefield of a job to get through. She can't win either way.

I admire her. It showed real grit and guts meeting him.
At least it shows she has her own mind and isn't a sheep.
If she had done the complete opposite, people would be whinging that not only are we out of the EU but even the States won't do trade with us.
The woman can't win.
Damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.

whatsthepointofmorgan · 31/01/2017 13:58

I'm very impressed with her so far. She's behaving like a business person. She talks straight to the point rather than waffling about like her predecessor. She's thinking about the UK.

God, could you imagine, Jeremy Corbyn and Trump in the same room. he'd likely piss his pants in fright!

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