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To ask how not to be frumpy

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Moomoomango · 08/01/2017 11:54

I feel like total mum frump. I'm overweight (working on it) I rarely put on make up and I generally feel like a frump. I'm only 29, two children 5&1. Please tell me how mums at soft play look so put together and gorgeous- whilst I am just straggling along delighted we've made it out the house? What simple routines / things should I do / buy to look less frumpy?!

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Bluntness100 · 08/01/2017 15:50

Anatidae, I think you're being hard on yourself and need to go a bit easier. I'm sure you are beautiful, everyone is in their own way.

I don't know why your mascara slides off though and gives you panda eyes and uour lipstick chips off in mins. That's not usual.

Nameforsaken · 08/01/2017 15:53

Oh dear, according to this thread I am textbook frumpy! And I never even considered I was!

Does it help that the clothes I wear are high end/expensive, but not from typical highstreet stores?

Currently wearing baggy no fit organic jeans from Howies (£90)
Long sleeved breton from Whitestuff (£30) & gasp! A zip up hooded fleece from Mountain Equipment (£90) and my old Salomon trail running trainers (£120) which I wear since I've renewed my running trainers.

Tbf, I don't go to soft plays, live rurally where there are lots of 'outdoorsy' people & shops (middle of the Lake District) and I'm usually outside with dc having to run to keep up with them on their bikes. Another shock, I wear a waterproof or down jacket even when it's not raining! But again they're high end & technical (over £300) if that makes any difference?

1horatio · 08/01/2017 15:56

name

If you don't feel frumpy then that's all that matters imo.

1horatio · 08/01/2017 15:57

anita

I agree, please don't be harsh on yourself. As for chipping lipstick... mine only chips when my lips are dry? So, a lot of good chapstick (not all are genuinely nourishing) and soft peels? Honey is good as well :)

RonaldMcDonald · 08/01/2017 15:58

actually wide leg, flare and boot cut jeans are fashionable again
really cut into or shredded jeans are good
especially bootcuts or flares that are too short
cuffs still working

I guess you don't mean fashion you mean what other mums think fashion is - which is usually around 2 yrs after a trend has ended

I think accepting what you are atm is the first step and i sounds like you have done that
then appraising what you have and not being hard on yourself is the next step
be kind in that appraisal and at every other step

get a few magazines and see what you like there
or maybe think of a sleb and look at her style, consider how she puts it together
start a pinterest board
look on polyvore
hang around on the style and beauty section and have a look at what people are buying doing etc

When you start to get some time to yourself again it will all start to fall in place. You'll be fine, just be gentle on yourself

Bluntness100 · 08/01/2017 15:58

I don't think think the cost of your clothes us relevant, no I'm sorry, you can just as easily be grumpy in mid priced or expensive clothes as you can cheaper ones and the same for stylish and groomed.

noramum · 08/01/2017 15:59

Feeling good about yourself obviously helps feeling less frumpy but it shouldn't matter what size you are.

Get decent, well fitting clothes. Look for quality, not cheap. I have tops I bought some years ago, they weren't cheap but wash well, wear well and didn't go out of shape. On the long run cheaper than new stuff every 6 months.

Get good basics you can play with.

A good haircut you like and can work with is a god send as well. Basic make up if you want. Book yourself for a facial on a regular basis.

Coats/Jackets: I have two, a good cut coat for winter, a lightweight one for Spring and a Berghaus waterproof for all year round. A coat is not good for running around in the woods when you come home wet and muddy. A waterproof is practical but not the best fashion so I wear the coat/lightweight one if we are out and no danger of sudden rainshowers are forecasts. When walking with a buggy 20 minutes each day to nursery or school, you can't have an umbrella at the same time.

I hate trainers outside a running track/gym. Decent leather boots are much more flattering.

Fairylea · 08/01/2017 15:59

Name I think looking "outdoorsy" is a different category altogether. I'm the same to be fair. We live in rural south Norfolk and I'd be utterly stupid to even attempt half the footwear described on this thread - everything is mud and rubble. Like you I try to buy good quality things and spend quite a lot on my clothes. I don't think outdoorsy / rural can ever be truly trendy but it's never frumpy either! Grin

JanetStWalker · 08/01/2017 16:00

Be lucky enough to be born with narrow hips, swishy hair and olive skin, otherwise commit to putting yourself through the rigmarole described in this thread.

Nameforsaken · 08/01/2017 16:00

I don't feel frumpy 1horatio thanks Smile
I'm clean, have a decent short pixie haircut cut, very fit, size 8 and wear mascara.

I guess frumpy to me would be greasy hair & clothes that don't fit

BalloonSlayer · 08/01/2017 16:01

I am 9 stone and feel as frumpy as anything.

I am wearing some pale grey jogging bottoms which I liked in the shop but now they are on I can see they look elephant-like even though I am not overweight. Oh well . . .

1horatio · 08/01/2017 16:03

Bootcute/wide legged trousers are a good suggestion imo.

I think they're flattering on many body types and make my legs look genuinely long even when wearing flats or low heels. :0 which I like. they're magical.;)!

I'm so glad they're fashionable again, it was so hard to find them the last few years!

Nameforsaken · 08/01/2017 16:03

You're right bluntness I wonder whether I look frumpy because although my clothes are expensive they are all atleast 4/5yrs old. They wear well & I have a small wardrobe, which means I'm wearing the same things all the time.
Maybe if I had a more varied wardrobe (which could only be afforded by buying cheaper clothes) I'd be less frumpy?

Saukko · 08/01/2017 16:06

"Console yourself with the fact you are a great mum and while the other mums are feeding their egos you are playing with your children!"

Does it make you feel better to lash out at other parents just because you're feeling bad at what you see in the mirror? Too bad, so sad... you enjoy being plain and grim-looking and wondering why other mothers manage to achieve being well-presented AND good parents.

The trick is...

Yeah, there's no trick.

It's just self care. It's not forgetting yourself just because your kids exist. They get haircuts, they get nice clothes. So do I. It's scheduled in. They get exercise. I get exercise. There's plenty of time in the week for everyone to have a go.

It's also confidence. Frankly I rarely saw 'stylish' mums at soft play/playgroups. I saw everyone in the same hideous shade of blue jean (1980s blue) in a bad cut, grim Matalan shoes, a baggy cheap knit acrylic jumper, make-up free face and limp ponytail. Maybe you just think they look more stylish than you, because your confidence is low?

The next stage in Parenthood fashion is the divide that occurs around 6 months, when some mothers go back to work. You can spot them a mile off. Because they're now forced to, and get into good habits of, groom every day, they often look better. Hair is well-kept. Clothes fit. Make-up's on. It's only little things but for some reason, work provides that kick up the bum to make sure you're presentable. Seeing those put-together mums can provide a bit of encouragement to those still at home, like myself. It just takes a bit of time and discipline. I wouldn't go to work looking a mess, and my SAHM role is just that - work.

So get ready for work!

By about age 2 or 3 most people have usually managed to make their peace with a new style or have become more well-groomed... some don't. There's a couple of mothers at my nursery I want to shake. One wears a grubby, holey fleece that seems to have come free with, or via coupons, from a nappy brand. A nappy fleece. She pairs this with jeans that don't fit and a sad, sad expression. Eventually she'll shake herself out of it... it just ain't right.

It's all confidence. I'm kinda digging the sports-luxe look come January, it just seems right, so I pair my trainers - NICE trainers, cool trainers, not just some scabby old things from Primark - with skinnies - that fit - and an oversize top, because I like the look. I accessorise, take a minute or two for makeup and style my hair. My coat is nice. My scarves are nice. My earrings are nice. I am happy. I am confident. The nappy-fleece lady probably thinks I have some magical skill, but I don't, I just stopped freakin' moping around wondering why I felt so ugly.

Nameforsaken · 08/01/2017 16:06

Thanks fairylea Smile I do look at some people with lovely looking boots/heels on, and although they look nice I just can't see myself in them as they'd be trashed in a matter of days!

1horatio · 08/01/2017 16:09

So true, saukko. That comment was simply nasty.

MargaretCavendish · 08/01/2017 16:15

It was a nasty comment, and a silly one - how you look is clearly irrelevant to how you parent. But on that note... This, too, is a really, really nasty comment:

There's a couple of mothers at my nursery I want to shake. One wears a grubby, holey fleece that seems to have come free with, or via coupons, from a nappy brand. A nappy fleece. She pairs this with jeans that don't fit and a sad, sad expression. Eventually she'll shake herself out of it... it just ain't right.

No matter how 'happy and confident' you claim to be, anyone who cares this much about someone else's appearance has some issues.

cornflowerblu · 08/01/2017 16:19

Such a nasty comment. I spend very little money on clothes day to day and very little time on my appearance but I have a routine which works and I feel good about myself. I have someone who comes over every 3 weeks and does my threading, shellac nails and a pedi every 6 weeks. Every 7 weeks I have my colour done. I have skinniest in all the neutral colours, long and short sleeve sub tops in all the neutral colours plus suede ankle boots in grey, Black and Tan, plain white and grey trainers and ballerinas in black, white, grey and tan plus boots, flats and heels in animal print. From that I have scarves, a denim jacket, fake fur, grey blazer and a couple of fitted puffa coats plus some lovely blouses and a couple of cashmere cardigans and slouchy jumpers.

I wear combinations of all of those plus always some foundation, blusher and mascara and I'm always looking groomed and it works for everything from work to school run. It's not hard and I feel decent about myself

cornflowerblu · 08/01/2017 16:20

I'll add that 90% of my wardrobe is Primark, H&M, Zara and New Look so nothing expensive or fancy

cinnamontoast · 08/01/2017 16:22

My kids are teenagers now but the best fashion moment for me when they were tiny was realising that leather is wipe clean and doesn't need washing or ironing. So - a nice leather jacket, either a soft, unstructured one or more biker style, depending on your preference; and perhaps a simple, straight, not too tight leather skirt (as long as you never ever wear them both at the same time). If you're on a budget, fake leather is fine. And leather trousers can look amazing if you've got the figure for them.

Other than that, I second the comments about making sure clothes fit well and getting a good hair cut. Good hair compensates for no make up.

Good luck!

Bluntness100 · 08/01/2017 16:22

Nakeforesaken, noooo, I wasn't agreeing you were frumpy, just saying frumpy or stylish wasn't really about the cost of your clothes. 😃

1horatio · 08/01/2017 16:22

Tbh, I'm a bit surprised so many seem to assume that makeup is necessary to avoid looking frumpy.

I don't wear a lot of makeup (I quite often wear none) and I don't think I look frumpy. I have a hairstyle that suits me, clothes that work with my figure...

I personally would rather recommend a good skincare routine than makeup.

1horatio · 08/01/2017 16:26

Btw, I second leather jackets.

A leather jacket, wide legged jeans and wedges. 👍

Plus. I suspect a structured leather jacket and high rise boot cut jeans may be flattering on somebody that's a bit bigger? (I may be wrong about that, btw). But it certainly does make your legs look really really long!

Allthewaves · 08/01/2017 16:31

Firstly you don't need to loose weight if you don't want to.

Buy yourself 3/4 comfortable pretty outfits that fit well and suit your fame - I found wide leg trousers and tunics/dresses easy and looked pretty in me, plus nice shoes help - kept together in hanger so easy to pull on, leggings tunic and boots are also good imo.

Getting eyebrows threaded made huge difference to my face. I have standard quick make up of no7 cc cream, solid blush and bit of mascara.

I have a shoulder length hair so looks good down but easy to plait or pony tail if no time for hair.

Bluntness100 · 08/01/2017 16:34

I hate wide leg jeans, I think they make me look fat, and I'm a size ten five foot eight, I wear skinnies, but have been eying up my narrow boot legs again. Haven't donned them yet but the time might come soon enough. I'm also not a fan of wedges. If I'm going to wear heels then I'd wear an actual heel. Although I do have wedge boots and wedge sandals for summer.

Agree on a decent jacket, a leather jacket or a biker jacket or single breasted fitted blazer works well,