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Left out of lunch

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LittleMermaidRose · 01/01/2017 23:20

DH & I were at the in-laws today for a family lunch (SIL+BIL too).

MIL invites us all through for a buffet style lunch & says to me loudly "you can't have any of this".
It's all meat - I'm a vegetarian & they've known this for 6 years.

FIL (who's very sweet) offers to make me a cheese sandwich, to which MIL huffs & says "oh well I could put out some crisps".
I replied "oh no it's ok, I'm still pretty full from breakfast" since she seemed annoyed at the offer.

I was really quite hurt! MIL has a bullying nature, so I think she just done that to be mean.
I could have brought along something for myself if it was going to be a hassle for her to put out something veggie (it was all shop bought party food though so it's not like she had been slaving away cooking for hours) but I was really embarrassed having to watch everyone else eat while I had nothing.

DH encouraged me to let FIL make something for me, but MIL just made me feel like such a bother I didn't want to say yes. I think DH felt bad for me cause he hardly ate a thing (& I know he was hungry).

Does anyone else have MIL problems like this or is it just me? There seems to be something every time I see her!

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Italiangreyhound · 02/01/2017 01:15

LittleMermaidRose "She is awful to me all the time & I don't know what I done to her to deserve treatment like this!"

You have done nothing to deserve this treatment, I would imagine.

Think about it a different way, why does she do this to me, I don't warrant it so why is she doing it?

Maybe she is just a big old bully?

So why do people bully? Because they are insecure, or sociopaths, because they like seeing people squirm or unhappy, because it makes them feel good, or maybe because it makes them feel in control."

You know you could take any track with her. You could speak to her privately. "Why don' you like me, MIL?" And see what she says. I am guessing she will deny it, so you could say "Why didn't you make me lunch, when you invited me and dh to lunch? I said I was not hungry because I was embarrassed, for you, but I was hungry, and now I wonder why you did it?"

OK, I know that would be a big step, but maybe work up to it. I do hate bullies. I really think you need to get angry about this.

You said "I find it very difficult to talk to my DH about it - after all, she is his mother. I wouldn't want anyone to say anything bad about my mother." OK but she is trying to hurt you, don't you think you are worth caring about?

"When I have spoke to him about it, he always insists that it's not done on purpose" But it is!, Isn't it. you know it. So if he cannot even see it, how is he ever going to stand up for you?

" I don't know if that's just because he's used to her behaviour though, maybe he sees it as normal for her" maybe so, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter why he thinks this. He should stick up for you. So you need to motivate him to do it, or do it yourself. Which seems easier to you?

" I didn't want to make a big deal about it in front of everyone." Why not, she didn't care that she was hurting you. Why are you worth so little that you need to go hungry. I think you and dh both need some assertiveness trainig/counselling to move beyond this.

"Plus it must be hard stuck in the middle, he won't want to cause any arguments or hard feelings in the family either." He does not need to be stuck in the middle, he can be on your side. If your comments were unreasonable, so be it. BUT wanting food at a lunch, really not unreasonable.

As someone pointed out, what if you have kids, what a field day for MIL, she will walk all over you. You can stop this now.

How long have you been married? were you treated like this in previous relationships or by your own parents? Thanks YOU are worth so much more.

Breadandwine · 02/01/2017 01:37

She didn't bank on me doing a massive shop and taking over her kitchen in order to make sure I was fed on the day, so that backfired Grin DH was decidedly Hmm at her and says we will NOT go there again.

Brilliant! Star

NoFanJoe · 02/01/2017 03:48

Her behaviour will get worse so long as you're hiding behind "not wanting to be a bother" and your husband's plain hiding. Since when was it being a bother to want to be treated with some small amount of respect by your husband and his parents?
Do you not feel that you deserve some respect? Because as long as you keep on being prepared to suck it up, your husband will keep on pretending that it's your sensitivitiy rather than his mother's spitefulness.

hesterton · 02/01/2017 04:20

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MagicChicken · 02/01/2017 04:58

Awful behaviour. Passive aggressive and rude. Does she think you make an unnecessary attention seeking fuss abut being a vegetarian or something? I can't imagine why someone would do something so obviously intended to snub you over something that requires so little effort on her part. It's very easy to provide veggie food especially if you are not even cooking it yourself.

Your DH should have asked her loudly and publicly why she deliberately did such a thing.

Daisychain2017 · 02/01/2017 05:09

That's so rude!
I can sympathise though - I have to bring my own veggie quiche/pie/anything to put in oven every time I eat at the inlaws (which I try to do as infrequently as possible!) - I wouldn't get fed otherwise and dh thinks this is completely ok!! We have had words but ultimately he doesn't stand up to them over anything else so isn't going to over this either. My mil is generally controlling and self centred too (wore white to our wedding for example!). I just try and never go there.
Politely decline all future eating visits to their house and try and ensure you dh boycotts too.

MagicChicken · 02/01/2017 05:18

I think the argument about whether she should have said something or let her DH do it for her is that it's always awkward needing to confront your MIL over anything and the OP obviously wants to keep the peace and not make a fuss in case she sparked a row with her MIL that created a huge family rift. She didn't want to give the MIL ammunition to tell everyone she's precious and high maintenance.

Whereas her DH should have no such worries and should have spoken out in irritation at how badly his wife was treated.

elodie2000 · 02/01/2017 05:33

'You can't have any of this'

Well, what a bitch. The fact that this was announced says it all. She deliberately excluded you.
So, decline future 'lunch' invitations or if that's inpossible, go along with a full stomach and if it announced that there is nothing for you reply. 'Oh, that's ok' we ate before we came. DH might have a bit more though' Take the wind out of her sails.

ChuckSnowballs · 02/01/2017 08:36

When I have spoke to him about it, he always insists that it's not done on purpose

Well, this time you have proof. On all three threads. It is pretty hard to avoid some veggie food when shopping for buffets these days, so she has deliberately gone out of her way to ensure that you had nothing. And she is banking on you not making a fuss.

JenniferYellowHat1980 · 02/01/2017 08:50

I don't understand the 'next time' suggestions. There shouldn't be a next time. You personally should directly contact your MIL to explain that as she didn't include you in her catering you won't be eating her again. Personally I'd be bloody minded and tell her that she wouldn't be invited to yours either. Your DH was pathetic to simply start eating, even if not very much. That was your opening to say your goodbyes and head out for lunch. Time to cut ties I think.

JenniferYellowHat1980 · 02/01/2017 08:51

Eating with her Blush Grin

2017watchoutherewecome · 02/01/2017 08:52

That would be the last time I went to their house.

Daisychain2017 · 02/01/2017 08:53

Just read your other threads - you and your oh need to stop seeking approval from this woman. It's not in your head - it is there - she treats you and your oh badly. Judging by your oh's reaction this family dynamic probably goes back to when he was a child and he's always been the least favorite one and tried to please and fit in. Like with my oh you aren't going to suddenly be able to change them or his reaction to them. Best thing is just to stay away as much as possible and let her have as minimal influence on your life as possible. It's not nice but you can't change her she's a cow and always will be!!

Oblomov16 · 02/01/2017 08:54

This is so rude. Has your dh ever spoken to your mil about this? He should be standing up for you.

PovertyJetset · 02/01/2017 08:56

Find your lady balls and stop being such a mug!

Mil is being nasty, and you may never know why but you are a powerful person, you can change your responses.

Screw keeping the peace!

Poole5 · 02/01/2017 09:07

Your husband sounds awful and twatty

Having to encourage FIL to make you something. He couldn't speak to his own mother about it?

He clearly doesn't have hands to make a sandwich for you himself Hmm

user1477282676 · 02/01/2017 09:09

Was there literally no bread or salad or anything? Just meat based things? Confused Sounds bloody awful!

diddl · 02/01/2017 09:14

So Op, if you had said to your husband that you should both leave-would he have done that?

Penfold007 · 02/01/2017 09:14

Your MIL is plain nasty and doesn't like you. No doubt her long term plan is to get rid of you. By not challenging her dreadful behaviour your H has very clearly told you exactly where you stand. Time to stand up for yourself with both of them.

BabySnores · 02/01/2017 09:15

Op I know you wouldn't like anyone talking bad about your mum but if she behaved badly like this would you not think it was warranted?

Sometimes you have to call things as they are: a spoon is a spoon and a cunt is a cunt. Your Mil ain't no spoon. I'm not suggesting you call her a cunt just see her for what she is, a cunt

You all need to get assertive: you, calling things how they are because right now your dh is minimising them and trying to delude himself. If you point these things blatantly out to him then he will find it harder.

Your dh, his mother is bullying his wife nd he's complicit in it. He should have said you were both leaving. I know how it feels to be in FOG but he needs to get help in being assertive and in recognising bad behaviour.

Megatherium · 02/01/2017 09:16

Ideally you should have said "It's obvious you don't want me here, so I'll go", but I appreciate that it may not have been that easy at the time. What you need to do is talk to your DH about what happens next. You both really need a conversation with MiL about how and why she thought that was in any way acceptable. If she invites you for any sort of a meal again, make a point of asking whether there will be a vegetarian option, and be ready to say no or walk out if necessary.

LittleMermaidRose · 02/01/2017 09:40

Thank you everyone Flowers I often feel like I'm over-reacting if I say I'm being bullied, but judging by most of the responses, you seem to agree that I am!

I just joined MN this past week after the first incident, & I actually can't believe how many times I've posted since then. It really does put things in perspective when I see the issues written down.

Thanks for all the suggestions on what to say if further problems occur - it will definitely make standing up to her easier if I know what to say in a way that's polite but assertive.

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OliviaStabler · 02/01/2017 09:47

The plain fact is she doesn't like you and probably never will. There is nothing you can do about it. Might be hard to hear but from your threads this fact is clear.

I think the buffet was on purpose because I can never remember a buffet where there were not some meat free dishes such as salad, coleslaw, bread, potato salad, hummus, meat free quiche etc. It is clear your DH is not strong enough to stand up to his Mum. Your FIL sounds as if he spends his time trying to compensate for her behaviour. As far as I am concerned you DH's behaviour was disgraceful. I wouldn't stand for it but appreciate that you and I may not see things the same.

You need to learn assertiveness. Don't martyr yourself again as you did. FIL offered to make a sandwich, you should have taken it. If you never make any waves MIL will continue to treat you like shit.

C8H10N4O2 · 02/01/2017 09:51

You are not overeacting you are being bullied and possibly you DHs inability to stand up to her is due to bullying too.

Both look for online practices in assertiveness training - sometimes called negotiating skills training. Before talking to her be clear what you want out of the conversation and practice it out loud. Don't talk to her without preparation which includes screening her phone calls and reducing contact for a while.

Seriously - if you can get a better more equable relationship all of you benefit in the long run, if you don't address the boundaries/treatment now you will go through hell if/when you have kids or any difficulties in life or they decide they need DH more than you do. It may help your DH if he can see it as indirectly helping his parents.

(bitter experience talking here...)

C8H10N4O2 · 02/01/2017 09:52

Meant to add, if you work in large companies you may find this training online internally.