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[myoriginal3]

Where was Jesus from?
I know he was born in Bethlehem. Is that in Israel?
I also know he was reared in Nazareth wherever that is.
But where was Mary fleeing from?
Who told herod about her pregnancy
And dh wants to know what Jesus surname was. I have suggested Christ

I almost googled hiatorical... in case it was a really clever new word

It sound soooooooooooooooo good!!

I don't think Jesus had a surname, he was just Jesus. A bit like Pele but not as good a footballer

Oh I better come up with a meaning for it sharpish

Btw there was probably more than 3 wise men.

I'm confused still lol. Perhaps I should watch my children's nativity more closely again.

I think it's fairly clear historically that Jesus of nazareth isn't a fiction

It really isnt

The 4 gospels provide accounts of the life of Jesus. Of those the shortest is Matthew and the first 4 chapters tell of his lineage and birth and early years. About a page and a half.

Bethlehem isn't in Israel, it's in the West Bank - Palestine.

Nazareth is in Israel.

I don't have a bible to refer to

The 4 gospels provide accounts of the life of Jesus. Of those the shortest is Matthew and the first 4 chapters tell of his lineage and birth and early years. About a page and a half.

The gospels were written decades if not longer after jesus died, there is no roman record of him or his deeds.

Actually historians think the fact that a person called jesus lived and preached at that time and in that region is quite clear. What is obviously a matter of huge disagreement is whether that person was god

Possibly a stupid question but do Nazareth and Bethlehem still exist?

Btw there was probably more than 3 wise men.

Iron age version of the JK show, turning up 2 see which 1of them mary's kid look liked

Oh, you mean nowadays Electrolens

Back then it was the city David was born in and crowned King of Israel!

That's right Pigs

"Surname" was not as we know it. He would have been Yeshua Bar Yosef (Jesus Josephson, to Anglicise it)

lasttimeround

Again that's not true, any credible historian cannot find the evidence that these biblical historians claim there is. Other than the gospels there is no mention of Jesus in any historical text.

Nazareth and Bethlehem still exist, yes.

Yes you can go on holiday there!

jesustrail

JustAnotherPoster

The Jewish historian, Josephus, (a Romanised Jew) mentions Jesus by name, though briefly.

The only pieces of evidence of Jesus we have are texts written decades after the fact by people who weren't there.

Josephus was contemporary with Jesus, I believe.

He wasn't the messiah. He was a very naughty boy.

So according to Roman records (which are usually pretty comprehensive I understand) Jesus was really a minor player at that time and not the big cheese he is made out to be.

I wonder who his marketing strategist was because they did a brilliant job of spreading that pish around the globe.

OP, have you come across Google?

It's very helpful...

Flavius Jophesus account of Jesus has already been disproved they believe that a christian historian called Eusebius added it later in the 4th century or something, if you read the piece in the 'Antiquities of the Jews' the added part reads out of context.