To wish some parents would show a bit more consideration to others

[Njcr]

On a train with a splitting headache after work. There's a family nearby and the child is watching a cartoon on an ipad. Not an issue as such but the ipad is at full volume and no headphones are being used. I know that it must be nice for the kid to be occupied for are while but it's a full train of other people. Surely it would be considerate to use headphones/keep the volume low?

Oh fgs, there's always an excuse on here about why people being inconsiderate should be accepted. Yanbu op, the mother should have turned it down or given that child earphones. She most probably didn't even look apologetic for the nuisance her child was being.

I do remember though, there is a phase in life when toddler noise just sort of washes over you as you are so used to it. Later on you go back to finding it noisy and moving to a different seat if possible! So i wonder if the same is true with audible ipads - some dparents are going through a phase of genuinely not realising that it is intrusive and annoying?

I would have thought a doc surgery receptionist would ask for it to be switched off, but maybe not these days.

Ciutadella

Yes, I think that might be true

Like the smell of a ripe nappy

Toddlers are noisy. Sometimes peppa pig (on my mobile) is the only thing that will get mine to stay still, and not scream / run around the doctors surgery etc. And I don't carry headphones with me,

And you don't see a simple solution to this problem...? Have a go. I'm sure you can work it out.

I did actually have my own headphone in my handbag. I like to watch things on my own ipad when I'm travelling. I just thought drowning out the noise with even more noise probably wouldn't have helped my headache. I can try it if it happens again (I have a 4 hour train journey tomorrow so who knows!)

I suspect the young adults blaring out music from phones on trains, are the same people who let their kids play games on the ipad with no headphones. It is simply about being inconsiderate.

Ciutdella - you might be onto something there. The mum did say to her child to turn the volume down when she first put the ipad on as 'people who've been working don't want to hear that'. Problem was the volume didn't get turned down and she didn't mention it again - maybe she really was unaware just how loud it was? If he has it on a lot then she could just be used to it and able to block it out.
Also, he was a bit older than a toddler. If that makes a difference.

Toddlers are noisy. Sometimes peppa pig (on my mobile) is the only thing that will get mine to stay still, and not scream / run around the doctors surgery etc. And I don't carry headphones with me, so they'd be listening to it without to avoid a tantrum! Obviously I don't try to be antagonistic and try keep volume down, but that might still annoy people (but prob less than a full blown tantrum).

Amazing isn't it that previous generations somehow managed without phones/ipads, or do you think all children born before 2005 ran riot.

I was recently in a doctor surgery where they were playing the radio so loud it caused my headache (chronic illness with worst headaches possible as one of the main symptoms) to increase to such a level I passed out. How would you feel if your toddler caused that issue with their peppa pig session in a doctors surgery?

The person above who mentioned radio/tv/iPad etc noises interfere with us in completely different ways to regular human noise.

It is incredibly selfish behaviour.
There are no excuses. I have autistic children - it's headphones or nothing.
It is not fair to have that much of an impact on the people around you. Someone else doing that around my children would have caused them a huge amount of distress. You have to create safe boundaries for your children.

...is correct and there have been many studies showing such evidence. My consultant asks me to limit these kinds of noises.

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Oh fgs, there's always an excuse on here about why people being inconsiderate should be accepted. Yanbu op, the mother should have turned it down or given that child earphones. She most probably didn't even look apologetic for the nuisance her child was being.

I never, ever, leave my house without headphones if I have to be on public transport.

People have no idea how to be quiet or discrete anymore. Conversations are not just for the person sitting next to them but for the entire bus or carriage to hear. Drunk people link to think they are the next great philosopher. Those on drugs have their own world to live in. Tablets and phones have games that beep loudly and adults are just as bad as kids at forgetting to turn the sound off or wear headphones.

Quiet coaches invariably have a party of people travelling thinking that quiet means not speaking on phones but getting louder the more white wine they drink is ok.

I cant, obviously, demand peace and quiet and civilised discourse so I shut it all out. Until we can all be shuttled about in private travel pods this is my solution (although I am saving my pennies to get proper noise cancellation headphones).

purple my DD used to hate headphones...BUT I would make her have the tablet on silent. She could only play one game on my phone or tablet when in public because of no need for sound. Once she kept headphones on she was have the sound on and headphones on. Luckily she was happy with headphones when it came to a 7 hour flight. She sat curled up and watched movies/cartoons while her dad and I kept the baby fed and quiet! Headphones all the way now.

Most of the time in public we play quiet games. I can't keep the kids silent all the time but I can get them to keep the noise to a minimum while keeping them entertained. I hate noisy kids myself so am always cautious of others around. No need not to be!

Agree with those saying it's just not necessary. Ipads weren't around until recently. They are not essential. I regularly travel with my 2 toddlers and have never used an ipad to entertain them.

It's anti social and rude imo. Also whilst I Understand some kids with sn can't tolerate headphones (indeed I have one) there are other options which presumably people used before we had loud electronic devices. Unless it's a dire emergency meltdown prevention there's no need. Anyone without a sn child there's definitely no need.

why always the kids who are described as 'special snowflakes', why never the adults who whinge and whine about every little thing that anyone does because THEY don't feel that they should have to tolerate other people ?

I wish someone thought I was a special snowflake and not just a grumpy adult :)

ncjr you have my sympathy as far as the splitting headache goes, grab some painkillers and a good, Thomas the Tank Engine free sleep !

Scottishdiem - you are so right, we seem to have become a nation of people who are incapable of doing anything quietly whether it be just talking, on the phone or kids shouting and screeching while parents look on and do nothing. I was on the bus today and there was a child of around 3 behind the man across the aisle from me, who shouted non stop, kicked the back of the man's seat and tried to grab his backpack. The mother didn't stop him, the man didn't say anything but I could tell he was getting a bit pissed off. Why can't parents just control their children? They either don't notice they are being a nuisance to other people, or don't care. I too always have earphones with me as I feel like everywhere I go my ears are constantly assaulted by noise and it's starting to do my head in. Rant over.

There are no excuses. I have autistic children - it's headphones or nothing

MyWineTime That is exactly what I say to DS. He knows - no headphones - no screen time. His choice.

Yanbu. Agree with Scottish I despise noisy people in confined spaces. This is one example but adults can be just as bad - shouty conversations, loud phone calls, teens with that moronic music playing (no we do not want to hear it get some sodding headphones). You get a carriage full of normal decent people inc kids with acceptable noise levels then one horror family arrive and make more noise than everyone else put together and timesed 10.

My son uses the very quiet noise to cope with others much louder noise. I don't understand why his needs come last. For him it is a reasonable adjustment. We don't ban assistance dogs because some people have dog allergies.
It's one thing saying a toddler shouldn't have peppa pig at full blast but it is another saying that a disabled person cannot have a reasonable adjustment.