To wish some parents would show a bit more consideration to others

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On a train with a splitting headache after work. There's a family nearby and the child is watching a cartoon on an ipad. Not an issue as such but the ipad is at full volume and no headphones are being used. I know that it must be nice for the kid to be occupied for are while but it's a full train of other people. Surely it would be considerate to use headphones/keep the volume low?

So you've insulted everyone and got cross over your misunderstanding of that post? The only thing that made me gasp on here was the poster who said their child's SNs overruled an adult with SNs, that was low.

Haddock you are picking apart one post. And even then you have to add caveats to your offence. Really. There are disablist comments and threads on MN. This ant one of them I don't think.

The most insulting thing I have said to anyone is suggesting that they can't read and I've only said that to those who have been deliberately goady.

A child that "cannot tolerate headphones" isn't being badly behaved though.
No, not the child, but a parent who then allows the child to play a cartoon loudly in a crowded space IS behaving badly - regardless of the disability.
It is not a need, it is indulgent and selfish. If it is a coping strategy - find a different one, or a different way of using it that doesn't cause distress to so many others in a crowded space.

Nobody has been goady. But I'll leave you to your offence.

Francis I didn't see that. Was it deleted? Either way that is something to get her up about. Not the imagined slights on children with SN.

*het

That's the point though Francis, calling anyone a special snowflake because of something they can't do is wrong. Calling you a special snowflake would be wrong

We are not going to agree on the quiet noise matter. I have respect for your views and can see your side on this but also have to consider my son. His life is so narrow already and I will not remove the things that enable him to spend some time in public places. If we ever were in the same place I think we would manage things between us.

Neither of my children can wear headphones easily - there's no SN, but, like me, all forms of headphones hurt their ears (the actual headphones not the sounds coming out). Maybe we are all special snowflakes, I don't know.

Because they can't/won't wear headphones they don't get to use iPads/phones with the sound turned on in public.

However, it also means that they and me are subjected to loud and annoying noises on public transport which, as my eldest suffers from really bad migraines following head injuries sustained in a car crash a few years ago can mean that she ends up in a lot of pain and feeling sick.

But if someone can't cope they can't cope. You have said you can't cope with ear defenders and I have accepted that without question. I don't think then it is fair to question other individuals who have said they can't cope.
My own son's difficulties relate to things that touch him and pushing it too far results in himself and other people getting hurt. He has no speech and little understanding of it so I cannot reason with him.
As I said before I am sure that if we did end up in the same room we could sort something out.

And you stopping my son from using his coping mechanism of very quiet noise that could be nowhere you, is forcing my son to leave. So I think are at stalemate.

I can't wear headphones due to chronic physical issues with my outer & inner ears. Result is that I can't listen to music/tv/films in public places & I have to do something else to occupy my time. I would never dream of inflicting that sort of noise on other people. Lots of work colleagues wear headphones. I would love to listen to music while I work but I can't. BECAUSE I CAN'T WEAR HEADPHONES. And it makes no difference to my opinion whether a child/adult has special needs. Find an alternative.

Unfortunately so many parents are so absorbed now. I say this as a 32 year old mum of kids aged 9&6.

I think my son's specialist occupational therapist would be really interested in your knowledge of managing severe sensory disorders. Because she thoroughly approves of how I manage my son's.

Francis he would have to leave because he wouldn't cope.

Honkings just not getting it. What if you lived next to someone that was heard of hearing so they blasted their TV/radio/music all day long. Would that be OK? They have a disability. That is their way of dealing with it. Of course that would be unacceptable.

*RichardBucket

YANBU. It's never acceptable to do that in an enclosed public space without headphones.

But this thread will soon degenerate into a "disablism" row.*

That was the first post to mention 'disabilism'

Honking just responded to it in the context of the subject matter. I can't see she's been aggressive at all.
There have been quite a few posts about not expecting people to put up with it too etc. Where were children with severe sn before etc You can say no to someone with autism etc (oh ok)

I'm quite bemused as to why some posters are trying to take ownership of something they have no experience of

Op, I hope your migraine shifted :( they are a killer