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To want one bloody day with my family

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Chamonix1 · 22/11/2016 16:53

Christmas Day we are spending alone (me, dh and dd) because in laws chose to have friends over for Xmas so won't come to ours, Boxing Day spent at in laws, and the day after Boxing Day was meant to be the day we spend with my side of the family.
We have a big family, and traditionally get together all the Aunties, cousins and their children either in someone's house or a local hall. This year we are having it in a local hall to us.
We have had a very very strained and rocky relationship with in laws, mil is toxic and fil just goes with it for an easy life.
Anyway, mil asked to take dd overnight on Boxing Day, we declined and said we wanted to take dd home, plus we had lots of food to sort out for my family get together.
Mil simply asks why she can't come.
Sigh.
Told her she could but she will probably be the only person other than fil there that aren't from my side of the family.
She knows I wouldn't want her there and doesn't care. We are spending all day Boxing Day at their house, regardless of being told we are dirty and therefore unwelcome in the past and to be honest I just wanted 1 bloody day with people I love without watching my mil "socialise" with those worthy of her time i.e.: one particular set of Aunty and uncle she's been obsessed with being close with from the word go purely because her son spends time with them out of choice.
It sounds petty, now I've written it all down but I feel for someone who describes herself as "delicate" straight up inviting yourself along to a family gathering when you're seeing your son and his family the day before anyway is just rude, especially considering the poor relationship she has with her son.
I now don't want to go and am feeling like I will never enjoy a get together of any sort again as she refuses to be left out.
Tell me to get a grip Sad

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Benedikte2 · 22/11/2016 18:05

To be fair OP the numbers would be astronomical I'd everyone asked their mil along. That's a good enough reason to explain why your PIL can't attend. Presumably someone else has booked the hall and so it was not your place to say she could come, anyway. You made a faux pas. LOL
Good luck

Italiangreyhound · 22/11/2016 18:06

"Arguments are from fil, directed at DH, because we've made mil cry.
When we ignore his emails and texts and answer phone messages he comes round.
It's terrible I dread it."

Then you need to not open the door to him and maybe even start talking no contact for you and your dd if this man is making you unhappy. Is he angry and aggressive? Either way, you dread it.

Does your dh know this?

*Please show your dh this thread. He has his head in the sand.

I am afraid this is a whole lot more than a Christmas event. This is your lives. Talk to your dh. Do not open the door to your FL if he makes you afraid or very sad.

THEY need to find out now that this stops now or they will only see their son and not their dil and grandchild if their behaviour is this inappropriate.

Chamonix1 · 22/11/2016 18:11

"Also sorry to backtrack but we've decided the 27th will be too much if we all start inviting our in laws, friends and extended family so will be keeping it to the usual bunch to keep it fair. Still look forward to Boxing Day at yours."
Sent the above in an email replying to something she had sent.
Don't think it's too unfair and is valid so meh.
Now we wait for the phone calls Sad

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Debinaround · 22/11/2016 18:11

What do your family think of your in laws op? I know if a member of my family had a mil who called them dirty then turned up at a family party l wouldn't be speaking to her or the fil. Don't think anyone else would either.

Debinaround · 22/11/2016 18:12

Ooh good reply. Smile

SapphireStrange · 22/11/2016 18:12

When we ignore his emails and texts and answer phone messages he comes round.

Hmm

Don't let him in.

Qwertie · 22/11/2016 18:13

Can you cry at your your FIL and explain that mil is always upsetting you & doesn't seem to like you and won't even let you have some relaxing time with your own family, you've been feeling really fragile lately? Fight fire with fire.

AyeAmarok · 22/11/2016 18:16

Could you say that it's now an aunt (she doesn't know) that's hosting, so you unfortunately can't extend the invites out further. You didn't realise this was the case when you said she could come.

AyeAmarok · 22/11/2016 18:16

Sorry, x-post.

That's a good reply.

Kirriemuir · 22/11/2016 18:17

Good response.

phoenix1973 · 22/11/2016 18:20

Make yourself happy.
Pick option 1, accept there will be tantrums and guilt tripping.
Dig in, ride it out and look forward to your family day.
Shut out the background noise.
Sorted.

CouldIHaveIt · 22/11/2016 18:21

Woman up.

You owe it to YOURSELF.

RING HER. Say, 'When you asked to come to MY family gathering the other day I didn't like to say no to you, because it upsets you and FIL. However, having given it some thought, it's not appropriate. If we all invited our other halves family it would get out of hand. So I'm sorry, but it's not possible for you to come. We will see you on Boxing Day as planned'

Then you & DH need to 'grow up' and stop allowing yourselves to bee 'told off' by FIL, just get him told.

I know it's not easy, it honestly, it NEEDS doing.

CouldIHaveIt · 22/11/2016 18:22

WELL DONE 💐

Cross posted with you!

BertrandRussell · 22/11/2016 18:22

Don't ring. Text or email.

Chamonix1 · 22/11/2016 18:24

Sapphire
I don't want to let him in, but he knocks on the door and dd runs to the window and sees him shouting "grandad!" So it's a little awkward!

He doesn't come round angry, no he tries to fix things and when it doesn't work he mouthy and it turns into an argument.

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TheProblemOfSusan · 22/11/2016 18:25

I don't know if this helps, but I found that life got a lot easier when I learned how to not give an excuse. It took a lot of practice and missteps but basically, never give a reason to people who are trying to push you to do something. Just say 'I'm afraid not.' 'I can't make it, unfortunately.' 'I'm sorry, that's not possible.'

At a pinch you can use 'other plans' but never specify them. It gives an in to the person to push at you. I know this doesn't actually help right now and I'm sorry about your MIL pushing in but maybe it'll help long term.

diddl · 22/11/2016 18:27

"as he would rather have them there to keep peace "

Does he realise that it's bloody rude of his mum to invite herself and that's the cause of the upset?

Chamonix1 · 22/11/2016 18:29

The problem
Yes I agree, that's a great method.
I just don't know if I've got the strength to just go "sorry, that's not possible" with no reason, I don't know why. Not used to being blunt!

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ClopySow · 22/11/2016 18:29

Good reply. Good luck!

Fishface77 · 22/11/2016 18:30

If he comes round say we won't see you over the Christmas period at all if you persist in behaving like children !
And if he comes round don't let him in.
It's easier said than done but no way would I let anyone spoil my family party!

Chamonix1 · 22/11/2016 18:30

And so the phone calls begin.
Anyone want to place bets on how many times I have to ignore said phone calls before a message is left/manipulative email is sent/fil comes round?

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Fishface77 · 22/11/2016 18:31

Cross post! With you and others.
Great message!

Chamonix1 · 22/11/2016 18:32

locks front door and hides in bedroom with lights off

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AcrossthePond55 · 22/11/2016 18:37

8?

Seriously, I think it's all about finding a phrase or sentence that covers and repeating it.

FiL; "Mil is very upset that you disinvited her"

"I'm sorry MiL feels that way, but I'm not hosting the party so it's out of my control."

Fil; "She was looking forward to the party"

Repeat

FiL; "You are very cruel to upset her this way, she thinks you don't love her"

Repeat

2kids2dogsnosense · 22/11/2016 18:37

He doesn't come round angry, no he tries to fix things and when it doesn't work he mouthy and it turns into an argument

In that case your FIL isn't just the amiable victim of your MIL's toxic behaviour - he's a manipulative bully, just as much as she is.

He could come round and have a cup of tea and say "Are you sure you can't let her come? Oh, well, fair enough." and then go home and tell her you won't bend and take the flak. But he doesn't. He comes round, and when he can't get his own way he becomes bullying and verbally abusive.

You don't need this; your DD doesn't need this. He knows you will give in rather than have your DD upset.

You need to take your courage in both hands and tell him that if he causes an argument he has to leave your home. If he won't, you are leave the room and take your DD with you. Really if he gets aggressive you would be within your rights to telephone the police, but I don't know if it would be wise to escalate the situation by doing this if you can avoid it.

Your DH really needs to back you up on this - if only to say to FIL, "Look we'll go for a pint and talk about why X isn't possible this year." and get him out of the house.

Is it possible if you see him coming he can be let in the front door and you and DD go out the back . . .?

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