To not really understand why some people are so upset by transwomen using public toilets?

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I'm sorry if this offends, but I really don't understand why this is such a contentious topic. I know transwomen and they just want to pop into a cubicle, do their business and leave. I understand that there is a fear of being attacked, but I honestly think if someone is of a mind to do that they'll do it whether dressed as a woman or not.

Why aren't women entitled to have boundaries, and be afforded privacy and dignity? It really isn't just about safety.

Restless.

I'm sure you're aware we have laws governed by harm and risk not individuals feelings on issues.
So we know that some people present a risk to children and as such if you want to work or volunteer in a school you have to be checked by law. Now I'm not a risk to children and so I was checked before being allowed to volunteer in my kids school. Men pose a risk to women and as such they are not allowed in women only spaces.

It's not hard really.

Vestal, Spartacus,

Cultural bigotry- racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia etc. All of those entitled 'isms' which lead people to dehumanise their victims. Grab 'em by the pussy.

Poverty- children raised in social deprivation are more at risk of developing violent behaviours. More at risk of joining gangs, committing crime, committing violent crime.

The issue is that the people victimising transgender people aren't actually the ones being targeted and accused of transphobia. The problem for both transpeople and women is male violence.

Penises are everywhere - walking down the street, on the bus, hospitals, shops, schools, dr surgeries. One being in the same toilet as me gives me very little cause for concern.

As you can see, not everyone shares your view. Female sex segregated spaces are for women, not men.

I've just read this whole thread over yesterday evening and this morning and I'm truly baffled, I am a women born with a vagina, I still have my vagina. I like to go into the toilets marked Women, I like to go to use the facilities to do what I need to do.m be it use the loo, put make up on, adjust my clothes, maybe put new tights on or whatever. I don't really want anyone with a penis in there except young boys with their mothers. Why can't I have this? Why can't I enjoy my public toilet without being told by the liberal brigade that I'm wrong? If a trans woman has had her penis removed and is a serious trans I don't think I have a problem with that but I really don't want a trans woman in there with a penis and no intention of becoming as female as possible. If I'm completely honest i do not understand at all how a trans woman can think they are female at all if they are blatantly a male. You can dress it up as you like but the last time I looked a female has a vagina, boobs, generally doesn't need to shave and has hips. I'm not prepared to put me or my child at risk with a welcome all sign on the toilet door. I don't give a shit how that makes me look.

I think the vast majority of people in this country agree with you, buster. They are not aware of what is actually being demanded by the trans lobby and that it potentially opens intimate female spaces up to all men. Talk to people you know, make them aware. Make your feelings known. Because so far, the only rights which are seen worthy of respect by the powers that be are trans people's, due to the deeply disingenuous way these issues are reported and portrayed.

Thanks Venus, I'm not against men who are born in the wrong body and change into women physically, you know, have all the ops and don't shout about it, I feel for them but I'm not on board with the new trend of being a female trans and shouting it from the roof tops and yet still having their masculine body. It doesn't make sense. If I was a man in a woman's body I'd be doing everything to get rid of my boobs and vagina. And that Danielle Muscato is everything I hate about today's ultra liberal ultra inclusive society. Fuck everyone else as long as some wonky thinking bearded 'woman' is happy! Ffs. How can that person call itself a woman? If I found him lurking in the women's toilet while my child was in there, or I was pulling on a pair of tights with my ass on show I'd certainly think it was a pervert and not hesitate to tell security or my husband and I'll tell you he'd be pissed right off. Like I said I'm happy to share the public toilets with trans women who have transitioned in EVERY sense but I'm not willing to do so at the risk of every freak show coming in, so if it's all or nothing then I've got to a big fat NOTHING. I've put myself at risk in taxis before, I've walked home in the dark alone before but now I'm older and wiser I can see unnecessary risk is not worth it.