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Man in the ladies loos AIBU?

332 replies

HairsprayBabe · 08/11/2016 16:34

First apologies for typos or spelling errors I am on my phone.

I am currently at an even where 95% of the attendees are men. I just went to the ladies and saw a man coming out of the cubicle. I told him politely he should not have been in there. His response was "Fuck of love".

I am annoyed he was in the ladies in the first place but raging he felt he could speak to me like that! AIBU to think that men shouldn't go into the ladies loos?!

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HairsprayBabe · 09/11/2016 17:12

This has already been answered upthread. It would make some women very uncomfortable, abuse survivors, shyer women, younger girls etc.
And women should not be made to feel uncomfortable in a space that is supposed to be sepecifically for them.

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venusinscorpio · 09/11/2016 18:43

Why are people so obtuse? Why exactly do you think toilets are sex segregated?

HairsprayBabe · 09/11/2016 18:52

Hint it's not because they have different doors that can only be opened with ones genitals.

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RunningHurts · 10/11/2016 14:09

Venus that is a question I often ponder and I think that it would be advantageous for many reasons for toilets to be non sex segregated (although best to keep urinals away from female view...)

It particularly annoys me when 2 toilets next to each other (each with just one door to the public area beyond) are marked as male and female - why have to wait when one is occupied just because you happen to be of the same sex of someone already using them

Also, slightly off topic but DH gets extremely frustrated by the lack of decent baby changing facilities in mens toilets

ArcheryAnnie · 14/11/2016 09:59

Having worked in corrections, I can assure you that women are just as capable of violence as men are.

if you worked in corrections, Pluto, surely you'd be aware that something like only 5% of the prison population are women, and of those, 81% are inside for nonviolent crimes.

Women are just as capable of violence as men are, certainly, but the reality is that they aren't as violent as men are. This isn't some dreadful misandrist accusation, just a simple analysis of the basic figures.

Datun · 14/11/2016 11:11

Historically, men with young daughters, parents of children with SN, elderly gentleman with bladder problems, etc, could all use a female toilet and be accepted with compassion and understanding, as a courtesy.

No-one is disputing the odd exception to the rule, based on personal circumstances at the time.

This is only contentious, because of the recent bathroom debate with the 'come one, come all issue'.

When people are even questioning the OPs right to tell a man he is in the wrong toilets and she is answered with a 'fuck off, love', you have a mind shift which shouldn't be there.

Of course not all men are rapists, but all rapists are men. I never want to be in the position where even questioning the right of a man in my toilet is considered wrong.

And it won't just be one or two it will be any man, anyway who he knows he can. Bloody hell, if people can't see the problem with that they need to read the OP's post again. Aggressive male tells woman to fuck off for asking a legitimate question. (whether you are one of those who thinks she shouldn't have asked, the question WAS legitimate and the response was aggressive).

5to2 · 15/11/2016 16:05

As for "safe unisex toilets which open onto a corridor" women have been raped in train toilets before. I'm always looking over my shoulder before I go into a train loo or any unisex toilet in a way I don't generally when I go into the ladies'. Unless there is a man there telling women to fuck off Hmm.

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