To think it's taking the piss for a bloke on remand accused of double rape to decide he is a woman?

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It really has to be "how do I know you are trans", not the other way round.

The problem is, thanks to TRAs, it really needs to be more than that now. As a PP said, previously TWs would use a womens bathroom unchallenged.

If this all gets formalised as e.g. TW with a GRC can use female bathrooms, then they'll need to have their GRC handy every time they go.

Or, more likely, the line has to be drawn at either "everyone who identifies as a woman" though that would exclude lots of women or alternatively "female sex".

If transwomen ARE women, how can they even be a rapist?

If you cut out the TRA's insistence that they are in fact women, we can all (women and trans) go back to how we were before.

I can't see any reason to suspect that he's not genuinely trans. He's woken up one day and declared that he's suffering from the delusion that he's actually the opposite sex. He's done exactly what every single person who identifies as trans has done at some point. They usually call it 'coming out'.

It doesn't matter if he's genuine or not. If he is convicted of rape, his authenticity is irrelevant.

This is a wind up and makes a mockery of people struggling with their sex and thoughts around this.
Are they hoping to end up in a female prison? Good grief the consequences are horrific.

Posters make the leap from a single accused identifying as a woman to saying that somehow trans-people, merely by existing, are doing violence to women... The fact of their existence is not doing anyone any harm.

Not violence, but you could easily argue that transwomen (as a class) are harming women (as a class) when their crimes are classified as crimes committed by women, when they compete against women in elite sport with their physiological advantages, when they are awarded scholarships and prizes intended to address women's disadvantage or to recognise women's achievement, when late transitioning MTF occupy places on company boards & executive decision-making bodies and are held out as examples of women in positions of power. All of this obfuscates the real challenges and/or progress women have made, distorts statistics and makes it increasingly difficult to get a clear picture of whether structural biases and obstacles which woenhave historically faced are being addressed. It totally fucking sucks and it is doing women harm.

Tut. ...real challenges women face and/or progress made...

Actually some trans people acknowledge male privilege etc. and admit there is bloody big difference- first that comes to mind is Julia Serano who wrote 'Whipping Girl'. She makes some interesting points.

That is true Cheshire.

kennington how do you know his struggle is less valid than others who identify as female?

For those doubting the existence of transwomen saying they have female penises, may I introduce you to Stephie from the ever dreadful Assigned Male webcomic by Sophie LaBelle. Sophie is a transwoman and her comic is there to educate us. There was no outcry from the trans activist community to remove or correct this.

Great video about the US bathroom laws

Here's someone who is "nonbinary" but just feels that being in the girls' dorms would just suit them better.

I wonder why?

And this shit is being celebrated as progressive?! It's an amazing trick men have managed to pull off and women everywhere are colluding instead of telling them to fuck off.

"Non-binary" is the biggest load of attention seeking special snowflake bullshit out there. I do accept that some (a tiny amount of) people genuinely have gender dysphoria which I think is a mental health issue and needs to be treated as such. I think there are also a lot of bandwagon jumping narcissists and some vulnerable people who are suggestible and fall for this shit for whatever reason.

Surely everyone is non-binary?

What I understand though, is why it is under the trans umbrella when it is pretty much against everything transgender.

What I don't understand

why it is under the trans umbrella when it is pretty much against everything transgender

Because none of this makes any fucking sense.

YY. There doesn't need to be any consistency or logic. That would be transphobic.

The reality is that separate prisons, changing rooms, toilets exist because males present a danger to females. Not all are the danger, but the male sex is dangerous to women. Hence, those who are saying that this is "damaging to trans people" are not acknowledging the violence that the sex class of males presents to females. Any trans woman (a male) can rape another person. Transwomen are not immune to criminality of a sexual nature just because they identify as. So they are not "damaging" the trans brand--they are underscoring the reality that transwomen are males. An inconvenient fact for many who are pushing a delusional politics that transwomen are somehow female.

I agree. I'd like to see some research that proves that transwomen are less dangerous than other men. Otherwise I have no reason to believe that to be the case. Plus there are also the issues of women's privacy and dignity. They are just as important as safety, if we're all about the feelings. Why aren't women's feelings considered important?

The charity Women in Prison list these figures. ..

46% of women in prison report having suffered domestic violence
(80% of the women WIP works with have reported experiencing domestic violence)
53% of women in prison report having experienced emotional, physical or sexual abuse during childhood

I would think those figures are fairly conservative.

I can't think of anything more trumatising than being locked in somewhere with potential rapists. How much psychological damage would that cause many of the women? Abuse makes you feel powerless and vulnerable, this would be massively triggering.

Clearly something must be sorted out for trans prisoners but I really don't think it can we in the general population of a woman's prison.

Transwomen still have the physical stature and strength (and sometimes penis) of a man and therefore the only place that they belong when they have committed a crime and received a custodial sentence is a male prison on a vulnerable prisoners wing. Women in prison should not have to share their space with transwomen. Prison is already thought to be a worse experience for women than for men due to their previous experiences and possible loss of their children. We shouldn't be making that experience even worse by saying 'now you have to share your toilets, showers and other space with men'.

I say we let paedophiles serve out their sentences in schools. Otherwise letting a male rapist serve his sentence in a female prison would be discrimination against other sexual offenders.

Male vagina and female penis do not exist. It is basic biology to know that male and female genitalia are specific to each seX and if you have a fully functional penis (which in this case you used to rape women) you are not a woman.

Want to be accepted as female? Take hormones, get GRS and you will have no problems. Present like dave muscato and you're just a man being a cunt misogynist

I agree. I'd like to see some research that proves that transwomen are less dangerous than other men.

That's like Narnia. All research that I've seen has proved otherwise

Transwomen and men commit violent crime against women at the SAME rate.
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Therefore it makes no difference if this bloke is the real deal or not. He is male bodied and therefore dangerous to female prisoners.

On the UK we do house violent male bodied prisoners in female prisons at their request. Tara Hudson, the violent sex worker with a penis being the latest one.

I believe all male bodied prisoners should be housed away from females, no matter how the male bodied prisoners feel in their heads.

How this is a radical view is beyond me !