To think enough is enough, time to have a re-vote on brexit

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I'm still having problems sleeping with brexit, sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking it was just a nightmare. But its real and with each day it gets worse.

Now the banks are saying they will leave the UK, as we are 80% services and the banks are a very significant part of this it will be catastrophic for the UK economy.

Most of the people i know that voted to brexit now regret their decision so why not have another vote on it?

Oh for pity's sake get over it!

There was a democratic vote, the country voted to leave, we are leaving.

Stop fucking whining because the result didn't go the way you wanted, it's called fucking DEMOCRACY. If you don't like it fuck off and live in one of the many dictatorships that still exist in the world and see how much you like life there.

In the week or two after the vote we all felt nervous, it was a big decision and there are uncertainties ahead. However, several months later, the sky hasn't fallen in and the world hasn't stopped turning. No one has really noticed any day to day difference despite the alarmist headlines and hysterical remoaners.

As well as challenges, there will also be new opportunities. I guess how you come out of it depends on whether you use your time and energy to moan, complain, and cry or whether you strap on a pair, stop whinging and work to make it a success.

We won't truly know whether it was a good decision for several decades but for gods sake have a good crack at it instead of wallowing because it didn't go your way.

CivQueen, what we were demanding of the EU went against the central tenets of the union. The very basics.

We already had special treatment. You can't be part of a club, pay the same dues and expect more say than the other members. You have to pay more to be a VIP. We didn't. Although though we did have as much clout if not more than the other members.

Now we are going to get extra special treatment from the remaining 27.

And Britiannia will rule once more. My arse.

Oh good lord not this again

Oh yes... I will be affected significantly.
My business is farming and farming related stuff, I could potentially loose a LOT of money but we have already started planning for various possible scenarios.

You see instead of whining and worrying I am determined to make whatever comes work FOR me and to come out on top. That involves getting my head down and doing something instead of crying in the corner blaming everyone else for my woes (that haven't even happened yet).

"If you don't like it fuck off"

Wow. That is not democratic speak at all. I don't think you understand democracy at all. Get yourself a dictionary asap. Shame on you for not understanding basic English. Pathetic.

Democracy means the debate continues. And those opposed to Brexit are allowed to voice their concerns and create conversations.

Moan on everyone. Moan and moan and mins until we make sure the UK is not utterly shafted by the Brexshitters who accept lies and spin as unimportant.

And fwiw, nobody said the world would stop turning, the sky would fall in or there would be WWIII.

Surfer, yes, again and again and again. It's only the most important event in recent UK history.

Please do contribute to the debate. That is after all, democracy.

Enough is enough??? (Thread title)
Sounds like a parent telling their kids off for being unruly!

Really, this is only the beginning of a huge upheaval. I reckon 10 years before the dust finally settles - and the seismic shifts will not be confined to the UK - I believe the EU itself is a doomed project and will be extinctunrecognisable in 10 years.

You are living in "interesting" times. Being a bit of an old gimmer and have been there, seen that, I am taking this in my stride. This is not Armadeddon after all.

Is it the most important event in recent British History?

More important than the banking crisis? Than austerity? Than the Iraq war?

Democracy means the debate continues. And those opposed to Brexit are allowed to voice their concerns and create conversations

Indeed. What it doesn't mean is you wanting another referendum until you get the result you want.

However, several months later, the sky hasn't fallen in and the world hasn't stopped turning. No one has really noticed any day to day difference despite the alarmist headlines and hysterical remoaners.

I am amazed by this line of thought.

We voted to leave. After the referendum, we had voted but we had not left. We have still not yet left. We are not even close to leaving.

There were concerns about what would happen in the short term if a Leave vote were to happen. It's true that those haven't been nearly as bad as feared. However they were mainly to do with sentiment. The bigger concerns are more real. They haven't happened yet because brexit hasn't happened yet.

The day after brexit, the week after brexit, the months after brexit - London's still a hub, we're still part of the single market etc, the big businesses are holding on to see what the trade deals will be, the researchers are still working on EU projects with EU money.

Why would you be breathing a sigh of relief because the vote is over and we're all still ok?

If this is how little voters understood about how the referendum worked and what was going to happen following it, there shouldn't have been a referendum in the first place.

No! I think you need to get a grip! I voted out, I knew exactly why I was voting and what for and I do not regret it. I am fed up with people telling me otherwise.

There was a debate - it was debated for YEARS and culminated in a democratic vote where the uk voted to leave with a majority of a couple of million.

So I'll say it again... Fuck off and stop fucking whining because you didn't get your way you fucking whiney fuck.

It's like watching Little Britain.

Oooooooh abuse as well. How very literate of you.

Much much more important than the banking crisis, austerity or the Iraq War. In long term importance only the Good Friday Agreement comes close IMO.

So I'll say it again... Fuck off and stop fucking whining because you didn't get your way you fucking whiney fuck

On the side of every bus if they could get away with it 😂

Mrhannah - yes the Good Friday Agreement was extremely significant. How is Brexit compatible with that agreement. I'm very concerned about that situation too.

We had to live with 40 years of anti-EU whining in the UK leading up to the advisory non-binding poll in June so a few months of remainers moans is fair enough, though ultimately unhelpful.

We are a parliamentary democracy and politicians need to step up, but the government doesn't have a clue what to do.

They know how bad leaving will be economically. This is clear. Vast majority also understand the positive relationship between open borders and prosperity.

Legally, it is a minefield. To say it is complex is an understatement. Read this if interested in why: jackofkent.com/2016/09/the-many-hurdles-of-brexit-a-short-summary-post/

Ignore 'Brexit means brexit' bs, and talk of 'we are going to do x by this date'. It is a bluff.

Be prepared for 'brexit' to be in discussion for the next 10 years.

Maninawoman, why is 41 years of debate by UKIPpers and pre-UKIPpers after the last referendum not described as "whining"?

And now suddenly, to dispute this most recent referendum's result as being best for the UK is called "whining" and deserving of much abuse?

Double standards much?

Do do do try and keep a civil tongue in your head, dear. It just makes things so very much more pleasant. I don't think there's any need at all for the abuse you've been spouting. It just makes you sound so hostile and aggressive and well, somehow intimidating. Which isn't really the democratic impression Leavers want to promote, is it?

I think you will find most people are searching for answers. For a way forward. For the best outcome for our country. If that's whining and moaning, so be it.

There are far many morons about who think "fuck off" is a great response to difficult questions.

Good Friday agreement is not compatable with leaving the EU. Will the govt rip it up? Just one of a 1000+ problems to solve before we could leave.

About the whining - I'm sorry to tell you - it will not cease because Brexit is going to make life worse for the majority of people and this is becoming clearer every day. We have had to endure 40 years of moaning and misrepresentation of what the EU is and we're not about to stand by as our rights to live and work with ease within the EU are stripped from us against our will. We're not about to shut up and stop questioning what is happening as we face a self inflicted recession. Personally Brexit could be actually financially beneficial to me as I'm in an export industry, but I would trade that 1000 times over to reverse this. What do we gain from Brexit? I would really like someone to tell me so I can stop feeling so distraught.

A bloody good question user (about the Good Friday Agreement, I mean).

In fairness if there was a revote I think Juncker and co have made it more than clear that they no longer want the UK in the EU anyway. I think you'd find that their arrogant attitude towards the UK since the vote would actually sway a lot of Remain voters to vote Leave!

Just a note to all those that say the ref is legally binding.

Not what it says in the act that created it, not legally binding, advisory. Sorry.

The whining point is a very good one.

No we will not shut up.