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To think enough is enough, time to have a re-vote on brexit

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jdoe8 · 23/10/2016 14:44

I'm still having problems sleeping with brexit, sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking it was just a nightmare. But its real and with each day it gets worse.

Now the banks are saying they will leave the UK, as we are 80% services and the banks are a very significant part of this it will be catastrophic for the UK economy.

Most of the people i know that voted to brexit now regret their decision so why not have another vote on it?

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Wishforsnow · 23/10/2016 15:26

What if there was another vote and the result was more people than before voted brexit?

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Thefishewife · 23/10/2016 15:26

What like a tin pot republic op just keep voting until you get the answer you like

donald trump said he would only expect the vote if he won so I guess your bed fellows😳🙁

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Stevefromstevenage · 23/10/2016 15:27

As I always say I am glad the Irish are not so firm on referendum votes being eternally binding or we would not have had 3 more votes on abortion since it was voted to completely ban them and hopefully soon there will be another that will further liberalise it in the near future.

Everytime I think of Brexit I think of the cliff the UK decided to jump off and now Theresa May is the leader who will take you over the top. A real leader would guide and lead people in the direction that would not result in bringing their people to an economic wilderness.

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EssentialHummus · 23/10/2016 15:28

All those "make a mockery" types - you'll remember that the UK voted in to remaining in the common market in 1975, and more recently UKIP et al campaigned happily on the basis that we should leave without anyone suggesting that it made a mockery of the first referendum. People change their minds.

In my opinion (foreigner, living in London, educated, employed), the referendum should have had NON-BINDING / ADVISORY ONLY written in big letters above it. (The results aren't binding, but go tell your electorate that now.) More fool our politicians for assuming they'd know how the vote would go.

I'm not sure I'd be in favour of a second referendum, unless it was non-binding, and each side set out their facts and arguments in a clearer way. None of this £350 million per week NHS crap, no threats that half of Turkey is going to descend tomorrow.

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lostowl · 23/10/2016 15:29

Get a grip and stop believing the scary hype. The banks aren't going anywhere. They are scaremongering. We have and always will be the financial gateway to the continent.

You must remember that banks said they'd leave if we JOINED the EU way back when. And did they? Of course nor!

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lostowl · 23/10/2016 15:30

*not

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Thefishewife · 23/10/2016 15:31

The single market is a Diffrent animal than it was today my nan voted in last time she voted out this time

She didn't vote for a flag m United army and the Germans telling us on the what to do

If *the EU was the same animal it was at the time of the first vote them the 2nd would not have needed to happen

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jdoe8 · 23/10/2016 15:31

I think another ref when the deal is worked out and we know what we're voting for would be reasonable.

Thanks that's what I mean. The Irish and the Danish had second votes, when they voted against their own interests so its not unheard of.

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PickledCauliflower · 23/10/2016 15:32

I also feel it's unfair when it's frequently said that people did not know what they were voting for. The same could be said at any election.

Many people I know, voted leave as they do not want to be ruled by leaders we have no say in electing. Many feel that Jean Claude Juncker had growing disrespect for the UK, also the concern of the creation of a European Army.
It's ok to want more say of how we run government locally (mayors etc), but seen as racist if you want the same nationally.
I voted leave, not because I am racist, but I would like to have more say in how our leaders are elected. I did not feel that the UKs best interests were met with Juncker.
Cameron tried to negotiate a better deal for us, but came back from EU negotiations with nothing.

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bikerlou · 23/10/2016 15:36

That's what they keep doing in Ireland, revoting until they get the "right" answer. That isn't democracy. I don't think all the people that voted Brexit are that stupid that they just did it for fun.
The majority hadn't been listened to for many years and this was the only way they could be heard, people who had never voted in any election came out to vote. You cannot then then round and say you didn't understand what you were voting for so we're going to reverse the decision.
I don't know what the answer is tbh but I know doing it again will cause chaos.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 23/10/2016 15:39

"I'm still having problems sleeping with brexit, sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking it was just a nightmare."

OP I mean this kindly, this level of anxiety is way above normal. Are you generally an anxious person? Is there anything else going on in your life causing anxiety that you're possibly displacing onto Brexit as a way of coping with the real cause of your anxiety?

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EssentialHummus · 23/10/2016 15:39

She didn't vote for a flag m United army and the Germans telling us on the what to do

Except that the EU doesn't have an army, and voting on EU laws requires a majority.

But I'm sure your nan knows better - she wouldn't have voted based on unsubstantiated, populist hype, of course.

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YokoUhOh · 23/10/2016 15:41

A referendum isn't democratic, merely populist. There was a reason Aristotle and Plato thought democracy a bad thing, and referendums embody this.

We live in a representative democracy because people are (mainly) ignorant and don't have the requisite expertise to make decisions. If the people choose the wrong government, 5 years later they can choose a different one.

Brexit is going to be a disaster. But another referendum is just more madness. We need Parliament to fight this every step of the way.

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Hoppinggreen · 23/10/2016 15:42

Sadly I think we do need to abide by the result - bloody ridiculous as it was
Apparently just 6% of leave voters thought Brexit would have a negative impact on our economy!!!

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CivQueen · 23/10/2016 15:43

I voted remain.

If there was a revote tomorrow I would vote leave.

Frankly in real life and mn I've been disgusted by some of the behaviour of my fellow remainers.

Stomping their feet, looking down their noses at others and acting like idiots. Shouting down opinions. Ironically behaving a bit like fascists.

I wasn't happy with the result, but I respect my fellow humans opinions and don't believe at all that anyone who disagrees with me is racist or thicker than I am.

Neither do I believe the sky is falling.

We just need to stop whining and believing we are 'oh so much right on' than half of the country that voted. We will have to adapt.

I hope they get a bloody move on with it so we can all start doing that.

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Topseyt · 23/10/2016 15:43

It was supposed to be an advisory only referendum, but hardly anything was ever made of that during either of the campaigns and now the politicians seem hell bent on treating it as legally binding.

I would go for a re-vote and I don't care if I am in the minority.

Two out of three of my children have had their futures damaged and thrown into disarray by the brexit vote, so I find it hard to forgive leave voters (including my DH) for that.

I kind of cling to the hope that Article 50 will not be triggered, and it does seem that some other leaders in the EU hope that too, as I was hearing on the news the other night.

However, Theresa May says it will be triggered by the end of March 2017. She has postponed it before though, has she not.

If we must Brexit then I would hope for another referendum on this apparently fabulous deal we are supposed to be able to get we won't at the end of the two years. However, I guess it would be unlikely at that stage that we would retain the option to stay in the EU if we didn't like what we were getting.

The whole thing is an utter disaster and we should never have had the referendum in the first place because although the question was a deceptively simple one, it actually has no simple answer. The effects are simply much too far reaching.

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kirinm · 23/10/2016 15:44

Pickled - we've got a leader nobody voted for in the UK. Doesn't seem to bother people.

Do any leaders have any thoughts on the banks leaving? Or the increased hate crime?

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NameChanger22 · 23/10/2016 15:45

It's a tad ironic that people voted for brexit because they don't like being ruled by leaders they didn't elect. Was Theresa May elected? I must have missed a day.

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littlemissM92 · 23/10/2016 15:48

No of course there won't be a re vote you can't argue with 17million people. And if there was a re vote 17million would vote leave again (me included)

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KingJoffreysRestingCuntface · 23/10/2016 15:48

Christ, no. Was enough kerfuffle the first time around.

I voted remain, I'm not thrilled but it'll blow over. We've been through worse and as a country we're not hard done by.

We can't just re-vote indefinitely.

More than 50% of people got what they wanted. Glass half full, etc.

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PetalMettle · 23/10/2016 15:48

I am still hugely angry about it, but I don't want a referendum - I've always hated them. I'd rather our democratically elected politicians took it as an advisory referendum and voted in the best interests of the U.K., to keep us in.
Either that or jack Monroe's idea about keeping London, Scotland, NI and the coast and letting the out voters have the rest to live in glorious isolation in

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RJnomore1 · 23/10/2016 15:49

Well I am Scottish and it seems that the vote till you get the answer you want is the way they are going to be playing it up here so yeah why the hell not, revote, hopefully get a remain and then sturgeon can shove her new indyref crap where the sun doesn't shine.

In reality no we cannot, I for one respect democracy even if it seems like a good proportion of my fellow scots are happy to ignore it to achieve their own ends.

I voted remain. Im scared. But we will survive you know. Somehow.

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engineersthumb · 23/10/2016 15:50

The terms of the referendum were wrong. There should always need to be a large majority to impose a change. 2% is too small a majority to make sweeping changes if this scale. Obviously when the ref was suggested no one thought that any one would be daft enough to actually vote for it! Of course this is only my opinion. By the time we consider the turnout the 52% result actually represents about 36% of the electorate, this should not result in sweeping changes to the country.

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PickledCauliflower · 23/10/2016 15:51

I am not a Tory voter, but they are the current elected government. We know how it works - if the current party leader resigns or dies the party vote for the next one.
I voted labour in 2015, not personally for ed milliband - but I voted for the party.

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user1471448556 · 23/10/2016 15:52

Yes - there should be a re-vote when we know exactly what the deal is. Choices should be made crystal clear and should include staying in. A family member voted out due to the promise of more funding for the NHS and believing we should stay in the single market, he is gutted at what is now happening and wants a revote.

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