To think most women have been victims of sexual assault? Has anyone not?

[Lighthouseturquoise]

Has anyone here honestly never been a victim of some kind sexual assault.

Even if not rape be it some drunk bloke groping you in a nightclub, a date getting heavy handed or pushy,

an ex boyfriend who just got carried away,

a sleazy boss or work colleague roughing your leg or making an appropriate remarks,

a friends boyfriend coming onto you,

a man thinking you were coming onto him because you were friendly then not taking no for an answer,

a boyfriend coercing you into sex or something as a teenager.

Getting beeped at or wolf whistled and feeling embarrassed and uncomfortable.

I think we sweep it all under the carpet and I bet the average woman during her life gets assaulted or harassed more than once.

Maybe we could ignore speaker now. These fuckwits do love a good derail. I will take my own advice and not address the goady fucker again.

Oh auser dont lovely

she is really not worth one second of your time or one moment of your thoughts

Pans experience was being minimised. That's why I chose to tell him I believed him

I will speak up and say no not in my name either

I only pointed out that make sexual assault happens too but it doesn't mean you should apologise on behalf of women for it.

I didn't do it. Why apologise for me?

Sorry, Aus. That looks like I am talking over your completely understandable response. We cross posted. I still think we should ignore though. It's only worth engaging if there is any substance to engage with.

No one was minimising pans experience.

You are minimising mine.

Which is pure nasty. And makes you just as bad as every other rape apologist.

I've never been 'sexually assaulted'. I don't like clubs so met all my dates through 'old fashioned' ways such as through blind dates organised by friends, work, and sports clubs. Every man I've met has been lovely.

No they weren't. Many people validated his experience. People questioned why he chose to disclose it here.
But that doesn't suit your narrative, does it speaker?

Yes, I have.
The one that stands out to me as the 'worst' was actually a woman. But I'm not sure if that's actually because it was the worst experience (pain wise it certainly wasn't) or if I was more disturbed by her actions because she was a woman and I am guilty of being more accepting of that kind of behaviour from men IFYSWIM. Also she was my friend, but others were boyfriends so again no reason to be more shocked by her than by them.

Poor Pan, having his terrible experience minimised by all the victims of male violence on this thread.

I'm going to follow AFs lead and ignore the goady fucker.

Time to bow out. Pan? Once again I am sorry this happened to you and I am truly sorry on behalf of all women that were nasty to you on this thread

Do not apologise in my name Speaker. I believe Pans story but his assaults do not go hand in hand with the sheer fear that is felt by women because they are women.

It takes a special type of spite and malice, doesn't it, to come on a thread like this and deliberately goad victims of male sexual violence in such a calculated way.

Just ignore the goadiness

Agreed, it is a special type of malice. She manages to do it without breaking the talk guidelines directly, too.

I do hope HQ will have a word with her. This sort of behavior would be the death of mn as a supportive place if unchallenged.

Ausernotanumber

That wasn't aimed at me I hope?

No. it was aimed at speaker

I very much doubt speakergirl is a woman, so the faux apology on behalf of women can quite safely be ignored.

Ok. Thank you

Soub

Auser was addressing goady fucker speaker

I'd forgotten about the removal man who did my house move.
His innuendo was revolting.
I just wanted him to get out of my home. I didn't report him because it was his own business.

I dont think that person is a woman either

speakergirl's ghastly interruption was certainly effective in silencing the women on here. So if s/he is a rape apologist, s/he was successful.

Speakergirl is a massive goady fucker. I've come across her before.

I got touched up by the man next to me on an over night flight - made me so scared to fly overnight on my own again. I always ask to sit next to women when I'm flying on my own now